Accomplished-Wall801 t1_ispwcxr wrote on October 17, 2022 at 8:35 PM

Reply to comment by Ortus12 in Talked to people minimizing/negating potential AI impact in their field? eg: artists, coders... by kmtrp

You know I used to think so but right now say by next year, I will afford to let go of a designer and use AI illustrations instead but I will not be able to afford to let go of a janitor.

Redditing-Dutchman t1_issto2s wrote on October 18, 2022 at 1:27 PM

Thats the funny part. People were thinking low-wage jobs would go first. But turns out it's MUCH harder to have a robot physically clean or repair something than something that can be done purely with software such as designing.

I don't think we have robots unclogging your drainage pipes on the roof of your house anytime soon for example, since every roof is different, every day has different weather, every area has different grounds/gardens.

Ortus12 t1_ispzfo5 wrote on October 17, 2022 at 8:55 PM

A quality artists that's flexible enough to take on whatever the clients needs are, has a fundamentally deep understanding of the world, human beings, physics, anatomy, phycology, story telling (thus having a full deep understanding of reality), etc.

For an Ai to replicate that it would have to be an AGI.

Working with Ai artists is gambling. You're hoping that whatever you asked of it, it will be able to do well and to your specification. They can NOT do most tasks well.

If we were to compare Ai artists, to self driving cars, they are less capable than self driving cars were 40 years ago. Self driving cars 40 years ago could drive on roads and stay in the lane, which is most of driving. Ai artists can draw humans in a very limited set of poses from a very limited set of angles. They fail with anything that they haven't had a massive amount of data examples to learn from.

Self driving cars have also been 5 - 10 years away from fully autonomous for over 40 years, as presented by the media and researchers in the field. It will be the same with any "Ai hard" problem. They won't be fully solved until we have AGI, which means the best humans in those fields will still be able to find work.

As far as your janitor, robots are coming for that job. Maybe not next year, but Google, Tesla and other labs are making significant progress towards a Robot that could automate that job. These robots can visually identify objects, pick them up and use them, and do complex reasoning and problem solving about their environments. It's the same though, it won't be able to solve every problem a human janitor could, so the best janitors will be able to keep their job until AGI, but there will be less janitors over all.

We already have robots that vacuum, clean, and mow lawns. So robots are already eating into that field.

overlordpotatoe t1_isqhwyc wrote on October 17, 2022 at 11:09 PM

Yup. AI art is fun and decently good, but currently it's hard enough to get anything usable out of it when you're using it purely for hobby purposes. It's not up to professional standards. It's getting better fast, but I think some of the hurdles ahead of it are bigger problems that won't be resolved just by doing what's being done now but a little better.

r0sten t1_it1kiu1 wrote on October 20, 2022 at 7:32 AM

> A quality artists that's flexible enough to take on whatever the clients needs are, has a fundamentally deep understanding of the world, human beings, physics, anatomy, phycology, story telling (thus having a full deep understanding of reality), etc.

That's not the dude you're hiring on fiverrr though. I saw a very nice poster for a local even recently, looked very polished, very professional. Then I looked closer and I saw that all the character's heads had been lifted from various cartoons. An AI image generator might've done the same, but in seconds and for free or a nominal fee.

Ortus12 t1_it2ilot wrote on October 20, 2022 at 1:50 PM

Very true. Ai is very disruptive. I hope people can find new jobs.