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BearStorms t1_it4l57k wrote

>That said, I'm very confident that the shape of our lives will be very similar to today in 2025.

Agreed. Especially considering there will be massive backlash as AI starts eating jobs in the earnest. As we see from historical examples this was always a futile effort, but still it will slow it down a bit. But there may be governments and politicians trying to win easy points with the Luddites and do some kind of anti-AI legislation. If you are in a country like that - run. This has never worked and it will make your country economically irrelevant very quickly.

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TheSingulatarian t1_it4u3pu wrote

The longshoremen are currently holding up improvements at the Port of Los Angeles. For a microcosm of the future take a look at that situation.

https://www.dailybreeze.com/2022/05/04/terminal-automation-report-on-long-beach-la-ports-draws-attention-as-labor-negotiations-near/

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SWATSgradyBABY t1_it69lsk wrote

I think they are trying to get paid for working

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s2ksuch t1_it8obav wrote

Thats fine but at the same time the whole state can benefit from reducing labor costs and saving taxpayers money. Both sides need to come to an agreement: Reduce future hiring, maybe lay off workers not pulling their own weight, and implement automation. Allow existing people to maintain jobs until they retire and continue to automate until it's pretty much 100% (if not 100%0. But to allow people to keep high paying jobs that we can save big costs on? That's a hard sell for me.

Same thing went on in NYC. I went to college and got a degree but friends that 'knew someone' could get these jobs working docks making easily six figures.

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SWATSgradyBABY t1_it8wzl3 wrote

If you were the business owner, that statement would make sense, but for the other 99% the math literally doesn't add up. Literally. What is labor cost to the owner is survival to the worker? Jobs aren't a debit to taxpayers. Jobs are quite literally a credit. Tax revenue is generated from jobs. I'm not arguing in favor of jobs. I think that we should already be at a near jobless society. But we have made decisions as a society that's been driven largely by the mandates of business owners who benefit greatly by not reducing work. I would love to see us feature point now where we can introduce automation while negotiating a democratic (small d) changeover to a a socialist society.

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overlordpotatoe t1_it6qvrr wrote

It makes me sad that we'll fight for humans to do tedious, pointless work just so that people have jobs. That increased productivity doesn't necessarily translate to improved quality of life for all.

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gangstasadvocate t1_it89yct wrote

I’ll be fighting for an automated future where I can take more drugs and maintain good quality of life, that would be gang gang

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