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Shelfrock77 t1_ix6rr66 wrote
AI is going to bring us that DLC we all want
fignewtgingrich t1_ix6uf8l wrote
2025
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Ok_Homework9290 t1_ix6y3ua wrote
As eyebrow raising as that may seem, keep in mind that anyone can make a prediction on that site (which is why I don't take their predictions too seriously) and that the people that make predictions there tend to be tech-junkies, who are generally optimistic when it comes to timelines.
Also, I'm a bit skeptical that the amount of progress that's been made in AI this year (which has been impressive, no doubt) merits THAT much of a shave-off from the April prediction. I kinda feel like that's an overreaction, especially if Gato really isn't as big of a deal as some people make it seem. Just my two cents.
Yuli-Ban t1_ix73o10 wrote
It's not that Gato isn't a big deal as much as it's the proof of concept of a big deal.
Gato isn't AGI because it's too small, has no task generalization, and has too short of a memory. None of which was necessarily the point since it was designed to prove generalist models are possible.
If you have a follow up to Gato that's 10x or 100x larger, the ability to cross/interpolate its knowledge across learned skills, and has a context window larger than 8,000 tokens, then you're approaching something like a proto-AGI.
rixtil41 t1_ix747ch wrote
Let's comeback in late 2026 and let's see just how wrong or right you are.
Ok_Homework9290 t1_ix75u5y wrote
Perhaps the proof of concept is a big deal, perhaps it isn't. I guess we'll have a better idea when the next version comes out, whenever that may be.
Flare_Starchild t1_ix79b32 wrote
PATCH NOTES ASAP WITH FEEDBACK TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT AND WELCOMED PLEASE!
I have notes.
ArgentStonecutter t1_ix7bx7t wrote
"Weakly General AI"? LOL
We're still on dumb pattern generators and they're already setting up to fake the close.
Lone-Pine t1_ix7cbbo wrote
> the ability to cross/interpolate its knowledge across learned skills
There's no evidence that Gato could do this and if there was, Google would let us know. When we finally get to see a generalist agent in a public demonstration, it will be interesting to see if it acts like multiple separate systems that each do their own tasks or if it will actually have a general, integrated way of relating to the world.
footurist t1_ix7fhfz wrote
For some reason these people aren't willing to accept just how different a continuously learning, efficient, general abstracter like our brain is from these giant clever data crunchers.
I highly doubt they'll be able to push those to resemble what we have.
throwaway764586893 t1_ix7h1zr wrote
Waifus don't even have to be sentient, just LOOK realistic.
Sculptorman t1_ix7hg20 wrote
Maybe a dumb question but what do they mean by "Weakly General AI"?
Yuli-Ban t1_ix7hy5h wrote
> There's no evidence that Gato could do this and if there was, Google would let us know.
That's my point.
Gato as it currently is lacks that capability and, thus, can't be considered even a proto-proto-AGI but rather some weird intermediate type of AI in between general and narrow AI. Or less than that: a bundle of 600 narrow AIs tied together like a fasces.
If a follow up to Gato does has task interpolation, however, then we'd need to start having serious discussion as to whether it's something like a proto-AGI.
Veneck t1_ix7ibc6 wrote
You're referring to humans right?
jazztaprazzta t1_ix7iekb wrote
Yeah... no
HeinrichTheWolf_17 t1_ix7jd0o wrote
There better be no loot boxes.
Evil_Patriarch t1_ix7zptf wrote
You say that like it's a bad thing.
I would think most people would want an AI that can do things for them, not one that is going to complain or have a bad day or get distracted or countless other problems that could come from an artificial human.
blueSGL t1_ix80q3q wrote
exactly, why would an AI with agency be good for anybody?
Something that can appear to have agency when required for the task would be far more preferable.
blueSGL t1_ix813x6 wrote
now to be true AGI it needs to be efficient.
What's the next 'god of the gaps' you are going to move to after that?
footurist t1_ix81fou wrote
The reason it needs to be efficient is the wealth and complexity of computations that are required otherwise. There's already stuff like AIXI and Schmidhuber's thing if you got a couple billion years to spare...
loopuleasa t1_ix81iqn wrote
Doesnt matter what experts say
The real answer is "we don't know" and it depends
SmithMano t1_ix83x6z wrote
Yea but a general AI could probably use other specific AI’s, and know which to use
botfiddler t1_ix8e6q0 wrote
Human-likeness would also include thinking similar to a human and understanding things, but also being able to act like a human within certain boundaries. Companion AIs will be like that, while not having some superior skill in every field and certainly not using a huge server cluster at home.
botfiddler t1_ix8gkcq wrote
Waifus don't need to be intellectually equal or superior in every field, so a real AGI isn't required. However, it will most likely require actual work by enthusiasts to assemble a human-like AI running at home and being open source. I'll probably get started with that beginning of next year.
The AGI or proto-AGI we'll see in some time, will on the other hand most likely not think in very human-like ways, or at least not like a individual human, just being good at solving tasks. What I mean by that, for example, is long term memory about itself and an identity relating to that.
botfiddler t1_ix8grf2 wrote
Sentience is a term used in almost esoteric ways. I don't know what you mean. If she senses the world and reacts to it, then she's sentient.
GuyWithLag t1_ix8lmg8 wrote
>If you have a follow up to Gato that's 10x or 100x larger, the ability to cross/interpolate its knowledge across learned skills, and has a context window larger than 8,000 tokens, then you're approaching something like a proto-AGI.
And exactly this is why I think we're missing some structural / architectural component / breakthrough - the current models have the feel of unrolled loops.
spreadlove5683 t1_ix9dk9o wrote
Official resolution criteria is on the metaculus question, but i don't want to loon it up
red75prime t1_ixbegzc wrote
Then your toilet water tank is also sentient. It senses whether it is full and reacts accordingly.
botfiddler t1_ixbyku0 wrote
No, I'm sure there's a difference, but not sure if there's value in discussing that here at this point.
red75prime t1_ixc3lln wrote
Why not? Do you think that a system designed to hone an art of making you believe that its performances of expressing various emotions are genuine, while having no analogs of human emotional circuitry, does, indeed, experience all those emotions?
That is something very complex, but in the end solving not a problem of survival, self-development and so on and so forth, but a problem of producing believable and pleasurable to you movements and vocalizations in response to various stimuli.
botfiddler t1_ixc94eo wrote
It's just an term, which everyone can fill with their own meaning. It's not useful, and I don't need it.
AsuhoChinami t1_ixf9fas wrote
No... yeah
AsuhoChinami t1_ixgcds3 wrote
He's a staunch technoskeptic and very rarely posts anything worth reading.
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AsuhoChinami t1_ixilvzq wrote
Why are we still fixated on Montezuma's Revenge just like we were in fucking 2013? An Atari game is such a low bar... can't we move on to at least Dragon Quest 1 or something?
Zealousideal_Ad3783 t1_ix6nksl wrote
Down by 15 years since April…