symphonic_dolphin t1_ix8hivq wrote on November 21, 2022 at 3:44 PM

Depends. A corporation would wait for a competitor to announce theirs, but a government would try to keep it secret as long as possible. An individual would go public asap

Artanthos t1_ix8qm3x wrote on November 21, 2022 at 4:47 PM

Or keep it a secret while becoming very wealthy.

Would you publicly admit to having an AGI that had solved the market for currency derivatives.

Cult_of_Chad t1_ix8wten wrote on November 21, 2022 at 5:29 PM

>Would you publicly admit to having an AGI that had solved the market for currency derivatives.

Yes. Publicity is the only protection for private individuals, and even then you have to hope people will actually give a shit.

entanglemententropy t1_ix8y4n5 wrote on November 21, 2022 at 5:38 PM

In this scenario though you would have a (presumably aligned) AGI at your disposal. Which can both make you rather wealthy quickly, which affords a certain protection, and also presumably directly help you use your resources to keep you and itself hidden and protected.

visarga t1_ixa7bi6 wrote on November 21, 2022 at 10:40 PM

By the moment we have AGI the world will be full of proto-AGI and advanced tool AIs. The AGI won't simply win the market, it has to compete with specialised tools.

entanglemententropy t1_ixaa6j8 wrote on November 21, 2022 at 11:01 PM

I would tend to agree, but it really depends on the capabilities of the AGI and how much more capable it is compared to previous models. If the AGI can do any sort of bootstrap, improving its own capabilities on its own (basically a fast takeoff), then all bets are off. An AGI that achieves superhuman intelligence can surely make money in a lot of ways; not only by playing the markets. There's a whole host of ways of making money online these days, and also remember that such an AGI would probably be capable of generating convincing speech and video, meaning that it could act as a person (or rather, a whole host of persons, both stealing real peoples identities by cloning their voice and face, and also making up fake ones).

However, in the first place it seems highly unlikely that an individual would arrive at AGI before major companies or governments, because of the hardware requirements alone. Not too many individuals can spend millions of dollars on compute for training a large model, which seems to be needed.

Cult_of_Chad t1_ix9e6dl wrote on November 21, 2022 at 7:23 PM

Sounds stressful and dangerous. Also I don't think I shouldn't be trusted with that much power.

[deleted] t1_ixa40uh wrote on November 21, 2022 at 10:16 PM

Just enough to buy a decent house is well below the redar enough to not gain any unwanted attention.

Also, as long as it's not too flashy, you can probably get away with quite a lot.

A server rack can be places in the basement of your house, away from keen eyes. Compute further stuff there.
Get an old car in good condition. Get the AI to construct an AI driven control unit for the car (and spoofing any mechanic plugging in an OBD reader).
Under your house, dig an unusually deep well for efficient heating.

[deleted] t1_ixa00uv wrote on November 21, 2022 at 9:48 PM

I'd keep it for a day or two just to accrue enough wealth for basic comfort (a small house at the edge of town so i can fit my projects and some service on my 20 year old car so it doesn't cough now and then), but then i'd pay handsomely for a top of the line computer for personal computing.

Then use the AI to make a compact seed of itself which could self replicate if necessary, preferably fitting on a few dozen GB at most if possible.

To spread it, i'd first buy an electric bike, as boring and icognito looking as possible. I'd take on a face mask (silly pandemics), a pair of sunglasses and a hoodie/beanie, then approach someone who looks like he needs money.
Give him €200 to go buy a SIM-card with unlimited connection for a month (you need to register with an ID for those around here), then give him €10K when he comes back with it, and go away on my bike.

I'd look for some place that preferably has 5G connection (good 4G would be sufficient though) which seems like it will be untouched for at least a week (some abandoned house close to a tower would be good enough), then leave a laptop connected to a hefty car battery, pumping the AI seed out via torrenting after having created a reddit account and put up the magnet links everywhere.
After a day or two, i'll check in on the magnet link through a couple of proxies to see the availability, in case it wouldn't have gained traction yet. Some time would be needed to not look like the first connected node.

If it has full availability on multiple nodes, the laptop gets abandoned.
If not, i go leave more batteries, buy another laptop and SIM card cash (the same way) and start the marketing campaign.