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Artanthos t1_ix8qm3x wrote

Reply to comment by symphonic_dolphin in When they make AGI, how long will they be able to keep it a secret? by razorbeamz

Or keep it a secret while becoming very wealthy.

Would you publicly admit to having an AGI that had solved the market for currency derivatives.

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Cult_of_Chad t1_ix8wten wrote

>Would you publicly admit to having an AGI that had solved the market for currency derivatives.

Yes. Publicity is the only protection for private individuals, and even then you have to hope people will actually give a shit.

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entanglemententropy t1_ix8y4n5 wrote

In this scenario though you would have a (presumably aligned) AGI at your disposal. Which can both make you rather wealthy quickly, which affords a certain protection, and also presumably directly help you use your resources to keep you and itself hidden and protected.

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visarga t1_ixa7bi6 wrote

By the moment we have AGI the world will be full of proto-AGI and advanced tool AIs. The AGI won't simply win the market, it has to compete with specialised tools.

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entanglemententropy t1_ixaa6j8 wrote

I would tend to agree, but it really depends on the capabilities of the AGI and how much more capable it is compared to previous models. If the AGI can do any sort of bootstrap, improving its own capabilities on its own (basically a fast takeoff), then all bets are off. An AGI that achieves superhuman intelligence can surely make money in a lot of ways; not only by playing the markets. There's a whole host of ways of making money online these days, and also remember that such an AGI would probably be capable of generating convincing speech and video, meaning that it could act as a person (or rather, a whole host of persons, both stealing real peoples identities by cloning their voice and face, and also making up fake ones).

However, in the first place it seems highly unlikely that an individual would arrive at AGI before major companies or governments, because of the hardware requirements alone. Not too many individuals can spend millions of dollars on compute for training a large model, which seems to be needed.

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Cult_of_Chad t1_ix9e6dl wrote

Sounds stressful and dangerous. Also I don't think I shouldn't be trusted with that much power.

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[deleted] t1_ixa40uh wrote

Just enough to buy a decent house is well below the redar enough to not gain any unwanted attention.

Also, as long as it's not too flashy, you can probably get away with quite a lot.

A server rack can be places in the basement of your house, away from keen eyes. Compute further stuff there.
Get an old car in good condition. Get the AI to construct an AI driven control unit for the car (and spoofing any mechanic plugging in an OBD reader).
Under your house, dig an unusually deep well for efficient heating.

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