roidbro1 t1_ixdd9oh wrote on November 22, 2022 at 4:28 PM

I struggle with people in denial. Snorting hopium for breakfast lunch and dinner they and (more likely) their ego's don't seem to be able to cope with cold facts, cannot entertain holistic wide view analysis, and rational thinking goes out the window in favour of if's/but's and dreams. I expect more people will come around slowly as the world regresses more and more each day. A disaster here, a collapse there, say goodbye to ol' reliable: global supply chain.

I'd argue that /r/collapse is more realistic and the others are more optimistic. Not saying one sub is better than the other. But collapse doesn't sugar coat or greenwash as much.

TheHamsterSandwich t1_ixdsbcz wrote on November 22, 2022 at 6:07 PM

r/collapse is an echo chamber for depression. That's not even the worst part, some of the people on there enjoy what they perceive as society collapsing. They want it to happen.

Vehks t1_ixf7bbs wrote on November 22, 2022 at 11:57 PM

>r/collapse
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>is an echo chamber for depression.

Broski, every sub on this site is an echo chamber onto itself. It's just what social media devolves into in general and reddit is really bad about this in particular.

I mean, if you really want to point that finger then this sub is not immune to that very same criticism either, half the time it is a techno-optimist hopium chamber and even members of this sub have to reign in some of the other more ,shall we say, 'spirited' posters because they go hog wild with the whole "AGI by 10 am tomorrow!" shtick.

We have met the enemy and he is us. Humans like to surround themselves with like minded people, while denouncing people with dissenting opinions regardless of the facts, which usually lie somewhere in the middle.

TheHamsterSandwich t1_ixfc67h wrote on November 23, 2022 at 12:35 AM

I never said this sub isn't an echo chamber. I said that r/collapse is an echo chamber for depression.

Vehks t1_ixfezpz wrote on November 23, 2022 at 12:58 AM

My point was that is not a totally fair assessment.

Yes, there are the terminally depressed who frequent that site, but there are also people who post relevant and factual information as well as offer well thought out analysis to current events. To simply write everyone on that sub off as "doomers" would be the same as writing everyone off on this sub as "hopium addicts".

Do you get where I'm coming from? Painting with broad brushes like this really doesn't do most communities justice and to be fair our current situation is very much in a precarious state.

It could go either way, maybe technology will usher in a new age of prosperity, or humanity can drop the ball entirely and screw everything up. Nothing is set in stone at this point.

iNstein t1_ixeujjb wrote on November 22, 2022 at 10:21 PM

People who think their lives are shit and think they would be better if the world was different tend to gravitate towards collapse discussion. It is a terrible reflection on them, they are basically the incels of life and they want everyone to suffer because they think they would be happier if everyone was like them.