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NTIASAAHMLGTTUD t1_ixw1dzs wrote

Not really interested in this, full dive or gtfo.

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DarthBuzzard t1_ixw3t2v wrote

"Not really interested in a computer. Quantum or gtfo"

Pretty zero there are now a total of zero people in the world waiting for a quantum computer before they are interested in a PC.

It always goes down the same. People reverse their opinion as tech matures.

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Sashinii t1_ixwakh9 wrote

Not the same. What would the advantages of quantum computing over classical computing be for most people? The adventages of full dive over VR less than that are clear.

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DarthBuzzard t1_ixwd8et wrote

Perhaps a better example would be "I'm not really interested in videogames until they get to 10000 player battle royales with lifelike pathtraced graphics and perfect physics/collision/fluid+smoke physics."

Certainly no one thinks this way today, but some people would have thought videogames were meh back in the Atari days but came around later on.

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Sashinii t1_ixwe4ng wrote

Some people (including myself) are just not that interested in VR without it being fully immersive. Today's VR doesn't even support 2D art with 3D movements (neither does any other interactive medium at the moment, but it'll be a game changer when it finally happens).

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DarthBuzzard t1_ixwld7z wrote

There's fully immersive, and then there's hyper immersive.

What you want is the PS5 equivalent of VR. A mature technology that delivers experiences people could have only dreamed of 30 years ago.

What you think you want is the PS9/PS10 equivalent of VR where it's perfect - completely perfect.

What technology was totally perfected before a fan of the concept of that tech bought in? There aren't any I can think of. There will be new people who aren't interested in VR until it's like the matrix, but that's because they don't even like the concept of VR or the matrix, but get pushed into it anyway out of necessity or because they can't help it.

If you're a fan of VR - the idea of VR, then you will find value in VR long before a full brain interface. VR is already very immersive today, and we will genuinely get to hyper realism levels of immersion in the next 10-15 years. It won't be a brain interface, but it will be at existential-crisis levels of immersion - and no fan of the concept needs any more than that to buy in.

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stonesst t1_iy0xg9o wrote

Yeah I roll my eyes every time I see a comment like his. It’s just such a fallacy, things don’t have to be perfect before people want them. Your comments are a breath of fresh air, keep it up!

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rixtil41 t1_ixwz2dp wrote

looks like you're not going to have a choice soon. What are you going to do when they stop selling smartphones and laptops?

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NTIASAAHMLGTTUD t1_ixx6x5y wrote

when do you think that will happen?

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Foundation12a t1_ixxthmt wrote

Fucking never. You can still buy a VCR in 2022 decades after the technology became obsolete.

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rixtil41 t1_ixxvnwr wrote

Just because something is outdated it doesn't mean it will just dissappear. You can still buy stuff that are discounted rather it be ebay or some where else. What will you do when your phone needs to be repaired? One example is the battery will degrade. If I keep one iPhone out of 10 iPhones and don't use the rest for 10 years the battery won't be that much better than the one that was being used in the frist year.

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Foundation12a t1_ixxvwsx wrote

Smartphones and laptops aren't outdated tech and even if they were you said you would have no choice because they will stop selling them.

Completely ridiculous.

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rixtil41 t1_ixxwuk6 wrote

Smartphones arent outdated yet. What what are your options when they stop selling them or supporting them ?

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Foundation12a t1_ixxzlsa wrote

Who exactly is "they"?

You can still buy everything from floppy disks to fax machines to pagers why would those devices which are infinitely less popular and useful than smartphones or laptops be purchasable decades after they're obsolete if "they" could stop selling them.

It is a totally ridiculous claim.

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rixtil41 t1_ixy01yx wrote

They are profitable on a small scale. If Samsung decides to replace all there phones with pagers and fax machine's they would lose a lot of money.

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Foundation12a t1_ixy093h wrote

That has nothing to do with what I asked.

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rixtil41 t1_ixy0e7q wrote

What are you going to do when your obsolete tech needs repaire ?

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Foundation12a t1_ixy0t01 wrote

Either take it to be repaired or buy a new version of it. Even if tech is obsolete it doesn't make it unavailable if it did things like floppy disks or pagers wouldn't exist at all.

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rixtil41 t1_ixy1bce wrote

But there is no new version of dream cast. You can only buy ones that haven't been used which is not the same. You can't take a dream cast to be repaired.

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Foundation12a t1_ixy243o wrote

And how many dreamcasts were ever produced? Less than 10 million units. There are literally billions of laptops and smartphones there are too prolific a technology to ever go extinct. A specific model may become rare or unavailable but a smartphone or laptop will always be something you can buy.

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rixtil41 t1_ixy2v2y wrote

What I was saying is that laptops are anything outdated won't suddenly dissappear but the support of those outdated tech will go away. Once that happens you don't have a practical choice in the long term. Is it possible yes that they will continue it in the long term yes, is it realistic ? no.

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Foundation12a t1_ixy41e5 wrote

You are wrong then because as stated you can still buy tech that was obsolete decades ago brand new.

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rixtil41 t1_ixy4bdy wrote

I'm done

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Foundation12a t1_ixy5enu wrote

So you have concluded that it is in fact not only possible but basically impossible that widespread technology like smartphones or laptops are always going to be options for people or at least they will be for the next several decades.

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rixtil41 t1_ixxxaac wrote

Let's comeback to this comment in 2039 and will see who's ridiculous.

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