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ziplock9000 t1_iyk575y wrote

I've been a SE for quite a lot longer than that and I firmly believe most, if not all, SE jobs will be gone in the next few years.

But that's only the start, many other desk-based jobs from very different fields will be gone too.

I really feel that in the next 6+ years most people will be out of a job.

What's worrying is that AI does not provide a mechanism to feed, cloth and heal those people who will no longer have a place to work for free.

Even then, humans have to be needed. Hobbies for hobby sake, count for very little if they don't get appreciated or used by others.

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CypherLH t1_iykeebt wrote

All call center and Tier 1 customer support and technical support roles are going to be automated before 2030. Possibly well before, but figure 2030 is the conservative estimate. Probably the same is true for most entry level and lower-end IT work in general. For Tier 2 and higher stuff, you'll have less people being able to do a lot more, so the number of jobs will probably drop by 80% or more by 2030-ish. This will show up over time as less new hires, less replacing people who cycle out, upticks in downsizing or encouraging early retirement, etc. Each wave of job cuts will be followed by fewer replacements during the next hiring surge, etc.

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ziplock9000 t1_iykf6v0 wrote

Structural engineers, architects, graphics designers, artists, game level designers, journalists, comedians, poets, voice actors, actors. All will be mostly gone.

..and that's just the tip of the iceberg. I think we'll start to see that happening in 2023 as game artists are already being replaced by online AI solutions at the lower end.

They need to get AI to produce the safety net FIRST or humanity is fooked.

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AvgAIbot t1_iyklvem wrote

What career path(s) are you thinking about pursuing, knowing all the job cuts will happen within the next 10 years?

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ziplock9000 t1_iykmqlr wrote

I've been an SE for coming up to almost 30 years now, I did branch out into photography a decade ago as a side job, but that just doesn't consistently bring the money in.

To answer your question. I have no idea, it's too late for me. Both of those will be taken over by AI and partially have already.

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apyrexvision OP t1_iykx99f wrote

Exactly and I'm not exactly confident with the way my government handles societal issues. Truly seems like things will be in limbo.

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visarga t1_iylef6c wrote

> humans have to be needed.

There's always someone who needs us. It's us. Nobody can outsource self interests. If people can't get jobs, then they need to be self reliant, a kind of job in itself.

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ziplock9000 t1_iyljqhw wrote

That's not true. Many studies about post-scarcity / post-work-to-live come to the same conclusion. For many, even with hobbies unless the thing they are doing can be used and appreciated by others it's a hollow pursuit.

  1. Great paintings are put in galleries for a reason

  2. The mug I made with clay is used by my sister for a reason

  3. The door I fixed with my DIY tools was to help my granny

  4. The scarf I knitted was for my dad so he doesn't get cold.

I got a good sense of achievement from those and helping others; However the crossword puzzle was for nobody besides myself and I got no more than a fleeting grin from it, my life is empty.

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Redpill_Crypto t1_iylvoft wrote

Do you have some resources you would recommend.?

as someone that just started exploring the whole AI space, my mind is utterly blown at the possibilities.

I can't even imagine how the world looks like once all those ai systems are interlinked with each other.

We will be able to invent stuff and accelerate humanity at a pace that allows us to achieve breakthroughs with unprecedented speed.

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ziplock9000 t1_iym02qm wrote

Not really sorry. Isacc Arthurs YouTube channel has some good videos on AI, post-scarcity

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