Submitted by mocha_sweetheart t3_zw253n in singularity
tjr5zz t1_j1wn6pk wrote
No, that's just propaganda. You give up your car, you give up any semblance of getting out of where those in charge want you to be.
Nope.
Bring on the downvotes by those that preach the gospel of the elites.
I'm seeing this bs, give up your car crapola everywhere now--a nice top down push. No thanks WEF members. You give up your cars first.
Good luck shaping that public opinion though.
mocha_sweetheart OP t1_j1wq7un wrote
If you're actually interested in learning about a system where there would be no such elites while innovation moves forward and often even better without them, I've linked a youtube series and a few sites and reddit threads below that explain in far more detail than one single comment can. At a high level, communism is a classless stateless system which falls closely in line with anarchism in which there are no unjust hierarchies; Anarchism is a pretty sophisticated philosophy. Anarchism just means "no rulers", not "no rules." Arguably this gives MORE liberty than a democratic republic because communes can form under and make their own rules which prevents the majority from oppressing the minority. Anarchocommunist theory has been explained a LOT already, so how about I link you to examples of people who actually do better than I can.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3nxK-0CTY0&list=PLVlCbf75cne_jbxwHwSaPdT65npiGhQrr
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/alexander-berkman-what-is-communist-anarchism
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/petr-kropotkin-the-conquest-of-bread
https://www.reddit.com/r/Anarchy101/comments/ee7bmv/what_stops_anarchocommunism_from_devolving_into/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Anarchy101/comments/gb1yz1/would_anarcho_communism_work_on_large_scale/
tjr5zz t1_j1wrozb wrote
Communism is fake. It never works. It's a trick by the elites. Nope.
There is no anarchy. Those that create the money, create the rules AND enforce them. You want real change, start using bitcoin--not investing--USING. You don't want real change though.
mocha_sweetheart OP t1_j1wwu5e wrote
Yeah, bitcoin is not very decentralized https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/sxy32g/crypto_is_not_decentralized/
Did you even watch the first few minutes of the videos?
tjr5zz t1_j1xc03s wrote
So far your suggestions are to submit to the elites and give up your cars AND submit to the elites and move to some fantasy of anarcho communism or something that the elites will instantly control and no one will ever do willingly.
If you aren't getting paid by elite bankers, you should be!
mocha_sweetheart OP t1_j1xp1v3 wrote
No, the suggestion is to directly change the system so there are no elites and that everything is ruled from the ground up by us the people instead of the top down. Again, you didn’t watch anything I sent. Clearly you are not capable of honest debate or discussion.
tjr5zz t1_j1xs2o1 wrote
I watched the first video. It's nonsense. It will never work. There is no incentive to make it work and it's flawed from the start. Sorry. Keep dreaming though. The rest of us will just use bitcoin to change things.
mocha_sweetheart OP t1_j1xsote wrote
Can you exactly point out any flaws of it please? The “incentive to make it work” is a better life for everyone.
tjr5zz t1_j1xu8dr wrote
No one will do it. Best I can tell they aren't using money. No one can just start from money and go to that. It's literally impossible. You're asking the elite to just please stop. They aren't going to. There is no competition for them and no incentive for people to just magically stop existing the way they are. That's why you're begging people to look at it.
Let's say I agree. It's the bees knees. Let's do it. I still have to pay my bills. I still have to eat. Nothing changes.
With bitcoin, you can immediately begin exchanging with people, stop using their money as much AND there is a profit potential as the price long term rises.
I'm not being mean but you need to be smacked in the face with reality on this. No one is going to do this.
mocha_sweetheart OP t1_j1xw07d wrote
I think you're the one that needs to be smacked in the face with reality on this. Let's say, fine, everyone adopts crypto. With crypto what exactly is stopping the elites from buying a bunch of it and a ton of supercomputer-level miners and stopping everyone from getting anything more than marginal sums? BTW, you can find examples of anarchist societies throughout history and more about why it works I think even in the same playlist.
tjr5zz t1_j1xx37b wrote
Using bitcoin as an example, you can only mine 6.25 coins per block--roughly every 10 minutes. It wouldn't matter if they had all the computing power in the universe. That's it. Also, and here's the kicker, once they spend it, it's gone. Most will NEVER understand that as they don't even know only banks create us dollars. They think the govt. creates dollars. No, the banking elite create your dollars and they can KEEP GIVING THEMSELVES LOANS FOREVER.
THAT is the problem. Bitcoin is fair money. They spend it, it's gone. They have to earn more in some way. No more cheating.
I wish you luck with your endeavor. I was young and optimistic once too. I'll tell you truthfully what I think will happen regardless of bitcoin or whatever. Whoever gets to superAI first is going to do whatever they like forever. I think it's only a couple years away at most. Let's both hope whoever it is, is nice to us or at least indifferent.
Take care.
mocha_sweetheart OP t1_j1y1p9i wrote
>Using bitcoin as an example, you can only mine 6.25 coins per block--roughly every 10 minutes.
Who, exactly, is stopping the rich from just opening multiple accounts and multiple miners for each one? They have the money, they have the resources, they have the land, and there sure as hell isn't stopping from just making bot bitcoin wallets etc.?!
tjr5zz t1_j1y6hiw wrote
You misunderstand the protocol. They have as much mining power as the universe allows, they can only mine at most 6.25 coins per block.
In a year and half, that will be reduced to 3.125 bitcoins per block.
tjr5zz t1_j1y7omf wrote
My answer sounded condescending upon review. Sorry. I'll tell you a tale of a man who found out about bitcoin in 2010. This man thought it was impossible to have a decentralized currency because any digital thing can be duplicated. He had made thousands of copies of digital files before so how could this be any different. Yeah, that was me. I was ignorant. Eventually I learned.
The reason they can have as much mining power as they like is because as the hash rate increases, something called the difficulty increases along with it. In fact, the hash rate HAS steadily increased over time, yet the bitcoin protocol and rules are steadfast. The hashrate increases, it becomes more difficult to perform the hash. It's baked in.
If they tried to cheat and not abide by the difficulty, all the non-mining nodes would reject the blocks. They would fork off into their own chain that is no longer bitcoin and nobody would care or accept their transactions/blocks.
If you google the whitepaper, you can read how that works.
tjr5zz t1_j1y7wqa wrote
If you decide to start with bitcoin, I suggest not having an investing mentality but rather a using it mentality. I mean if you choose to invest that's fine but use it first and understand the hype cycles at least.
I recommend getting Phoenix Wallet and Muun for your phone and Sparrow for your pc. Just start right out using the lightning network with Phoenix and Muun.
tjr5zz t1_j1xbj3g wrote
/r/cryptocurrencies is a captured sub. Let me guess, they are talking about pools. Pools aren't miners and miners aren't nodes. Bitcoin is the most decentralized man-made thing on the planet. It's also capped in supply.
Bitcoin is it. That's it. That's your shot. Nothing else except one thing and it's luck. No one is going to just switch to some fantasy. They have bills to pay and a money creator to pay them to. So we all either move to bitcoin over time or we just get ruled by the elites however they like.
The only other hope is some geek gets to superAI first, has a good heart and does right by mankind.
Why don't you go to /r/futurology and pedal that stuff. It's also a captured sub. Why come here? This place must be getting more popular.
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