This is how chatGPT sees itself.Submitted by Kindly-Customer-1312 t3_zufdv1 in singularity
mocha_sweetheart t1_j1syzzs wrote
Reply to comment by Accomplished_Box_907 in This is how chatGPT sees itself. by Kindly-Customer-1312
- https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/7n6ql2/is_the_black_book_of_communism_an_accurate_source/ The black book of communism’s count of how many deaths is wildly inaccurate and proven here to have artificially inflated the numbers, through nearly half a dozen sources linked throughout the comment.
- Approximately 20 million people die every year due to the effects of capitalism, such as starvation, lack of access to clean water, lack of access to shelter, lack of access to reasonably priced medicine and vaccines. These people die not because we lack the ability to solve these problems, but because it’s not profitable to do so. Capitalism only focuses on profit. And that’s not even including other issues like suicides caused by poverty, etc. this is not a system that’s working for everyone. Capitalism kills more every 6 years than the black book of communism claims communism killed in a 100 years (which, as shown above was itself already wildly inaccurate and an inflated number)
- Historical attempts at communism weren’t really communist, real communism would have be stateless, moneyless and classless; Historical regimes that called themselves communist did not fully fall under these. Communism hasn’t been tried in earnest so you can’t compare it to things that weren’t actually communist but called themselves that, that logic doesn’t work in the real world.
- If you’re gonna use the black book of communism’s ways of counting deaths under communism (which literally included things like Nazis killed by communists, etc.), then if you do it to capitalism it is far worse:
100,000,000: Extermination of native Americans (1492–1890) 15,000,000: Atlantic slave trade (1500–1870) 150,000: French repression of Haiti slave revolt (1792–1803) 300,000: French conquest of Algeria (1830–1847) 50,000: Opium Wars (1839–1842 & 1856–1860) 1,000,000: Irish Potato Famine (1845–1849) 100,000: British supression of the Sepoy Mutiny (1857–1858) 20,000: Paris Commune Massacre (1871) 29,000,000: Famine in British Colonized India (1876–1879 & 1897–1902) 3,445: Black people lynched in the US (1882–1964) 10,000,000: Belgian Congo Atrocities: (1885–1908) 250,000: US conquest of the Philipines (1898–1913) 28,000: British concentration camps in South Africa (1899–1902) 800,000: French exploitation of Equitorial Africans (1900–1940) 65,000: German genocide of the Herero and Namaqua (1904–1907) 10,000,000: First World War (1914–1918) 100,000: White army pogroms against Jews (1917–1920) 600,000: Fascist Italian conquest in Africa (1922–1943) 10,000,000: Japanese Imperialism in East Asia (1931–1945) 200,000: White Terror in Spain (1936–1945) 25,000,000: Nazi oppression in Europe: (1938–1945) 30,000: Kuomintang Massacre in Taiwan (1947) 80,000: French suppression of Madagascar revolt (1947) 30,000: Israeli colonization of Palastine (1948-present) 100,000: South Korean Massacres (1948–1950) 50,000: British suppression of the Mau-Mau revolt (1952-1960) 16,000: Shah of Iran regime (1953–1979) 1,000,000: Algerian war of independence (1954–1962) 200,000: Juntas in Guatemala (1954–1962) 50,000: Papa & Baby Doc regimes in Haiti (1957–1971) 3,000,000: Vietnamese killed by US military (1963–1975) 1,000,000: Indonesian mass killings (1965–1966) 1,000,000: Biafran War (1967–1970) 400: Tlatelolco massacre (1968) 700,000: US bombing of Laos & Cambodia (1967–1973) 50,000: Somoza regime in Nicaragua (1972–1979) 3,200: Pinochet regime in Chile: (1973–1990) 1,500,000: Angola Civil War (1974–1992) 200,000: East Timor massacre (1975–1998) 1,000,000: Mozambique Civil War (1975–1990) 30,000: US-backed state terrorism in Argentina (1975–1990) 70,000: El Salvador military dictatorships (1977–1991) 30,000: Contra proxy war in Nicaragua: (1979–1990) 16,000: Bhopal Carbide disaster (1984) 3,000: US invasion of Panama (1989) 1,000,000: US embargo on Iraq (1991–2003) 400,000: Mujahideen faction conflict in Afghanistan (1992–1996) 200,000: Destruction of Yugoslavia (1992–1995) 6,000,000: Congolese Civil War (1997–2008) 30,000: NATO occupation of Afghanistan (2001-present)
Accomplished_Box_907 t1_j1t1r6q wrote
How bout we do this.
Describe a perfect communist state
Who runs it?
Do we have guns pointed at our backs making us work?
If i choose not to contribute am i put to death?
How do you make people pick the hard jobs? Who digs the ditches, and who develops the software?
What if something like tik tok was seen as limiting productivity, would this be banned?
If im unable to contribute am i given the same pay as the ones working?
if there are politicians and people making new laws and making sure we meet goals to feed said population and any other need, do they also get the same pay or more?
If I am tinkering in my garage and invent the Iphone, does the government show up at my door and take it? The profit is there's.
And reiterateing the first question who is THEY? who is the government? Who pays people, takes my iphone, and makes sure i contribute? Sounds to me like a ruling class.
If you can answer these questions without taking my liberties then sure ill agree with you. "Give me liberty or give me death" as they say, although you may only care about what you deem as your liberties.
Answering in a simple list would be fine, you dont have to go into detail unless its required.
mocha_sweetheart t1_j1u5xzw wrote
If you're actually interested in learning about this, I've linked a youtube series and a few sites and reddit threads below that explain in far more detail than one single comment can. At a high level, communism is a classless stateless system which falls closely in line with anarchism in which there are no unjust hierarchies; Anarchism is a pretty sophisticated philosophy. Anarchism just means "no rulers", not "no rules." Arguably this gives MORE liberty than a democratic republic because communes can form under and make their own rules which prevents the majority from oppressing the minority. Anarchocommunist theory has been explained a LOT already, so how about I link you to examples of people who actually do better than I can.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3nxK-0CTY0&list=PLVlCbf75cne_jbxwHwSaPdT65npiGhQrr
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/alexander-berkman-what-is-communist-anarchism
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/petr-kropotkin-the-conquest-of-bread
https://www.reddit.com/r/Anarchy101/comments/ee7bmv/what_stops_anarchocommunism_from_devolving_into/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Anarchy101/comments/gb1yz1/would_anarcho_communism_work_on_large_scale/
Accomplished_Box_907 t1_j1t1vjr wrote
A lot of this were about the deaths statement, so im going to throw that out, replace communism with overbearing government. The deaths are huge and atrocities just as big. I dont believe a government should be god, people are evil
mocha_sweetheart t1_j1u7i95 wrote
Read the other reply I made on anarchocommunism on this, in the video series I linked the guy explaining things is actually agreeing with you on this part and so did many anarchocommunist thinkers and even Karl Marx himself regarding topics like gun control etc.
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