Frumpagumpus t1_j1wbsed wrote on December 27, 2022 at 9:55 PM

Reply to comment by leroy_hoffenfeffer in Concerns about the near future and the current gatekeepers of AI by dracount

lesswrong has been spilling copious amounts of ink on this topic for like 2 decades, talking is done (well actually we are talking about it more than ever and bringing a lot of new people into the conversation), doing is now, what do you want us to do, consult 5 yr oids to see what they think?

in many ways (not all ways) technological progress has stagnated for years up until this point.

leroy_hoffenfeffer t1_j1wd4g0 wrote on December 27, 2022 at 10:04 PM

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make here.

Frumpagumpus t1_j1wdtft wrote on December 27, 2022 at 10:09 PM

> I want to try and safely and ethically consider the societal application of AI,

hypotheticals have already been considered ad nauseam, i take this to imply you would advocate for some sort of pause, which I don't think is either possible or desirable.

I am just pointing out it's all been re hashed over and over already

leroy_hoffenfeffer t1_j1wriu5 wrote on December 27, 2022 at 11:45 PM

>I am just pointing out it's all been re hashed over and over already

Has it though? Capital Hill seems totally and completely incapable of talking about technology in any meaningful way.

Joe Schmoe on Reddit can't do anything to affect national discourse: if the people who matter aren't discussing this, then the conversation has not been had yet.

Frumpagumpus t1_j1wv2by wrote on December 28, 2022 at 12:11 AM

ok but we on reddit and also, I mean the people talking about it are the ones implementing it (i'm no bigwig but I do have a pull request or two (to mostly unimportant projects)/am api consumer/implementer)

speaking of implenting actual stuff with the api, nothing I plan on in the near future would really have an ethical dimension i dont think. though I could see possibly doing stuff in like a 5+ yr timeframe where I might pause for a second lol.

another thought is that legislation is mostly written by staffers (from what I know of the USA system) and they might be here talking about this stuff...