1 year of college since using GPT

Submitted by innovate_rye t3_zfmqy4 in singularity

a couple months ago i was interviewed for VICE news about using ai to "cheat" in school.

link here: https://www.reddit.com/r/Futurology/comments/y3zgt9/students_are_using_ai_to_write_their_papers/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

since the year is over, i wanted to give an overview of using ai in college. first i want to tell u my goals. im a biochemistry major with a unique passion for creative destruction. the idea that an invention can become so powerful it overthrows the previous norms of society. ive always been a fan of steve jobs bc we r both adopted and have an interest in cool tech. when he made the iphone, he described it as a bicycle for the mind. something that can help someone be more productive.

ai is the next wonder creation that will be used by billions. ai is creatively destructive. deepmind and metaAI came out with novel protein folding algorithms that are accurate, fast and easy to access. for non-biology ppl, this invention is amazing. it used to take one full phd to figure out the structure of one protein and these AIs can do hundreds of millions of them in a year.

chatGPT scored a 1020 on the SAT and 110 on an iq test. while the iphone was an instant way to find information, ai can refine that information to anything.

the goal of ai is to simulate intelligence to a human level. i would say right now ai is smarter than most humans alive. as the future progresses for ppl of my generation (gen z), ai may reach a point of unfathomable intelligence in our lifetime. a goal i had as a kid was to cure cancer. i realized that cancer happens bc of mutations in the cells. in order to cure cancer we must understand and cure cell malfunctions. meaning creating the perfect cell. that would also mean trying to cure aging. the biology of aging is the most fascinating place in biology in my useless opinion. basically AI is solving intelligence. it is getting better. why not use its intelligence for our own sake? AI enables us to dream big, like go to alpha centauri big, we might cure all diseases big, we can generate our realities in virtual worlds and live in them big. what happened to dreaming big? what happened to the human soul of adventure and exploring the unknown? it seems like everyone only cares about the small, hedonistic pleasures of life.

i mainly used GPT-3 davinci-002. the work in class used to stress me out so much but now i tell gpt-3 what to do and bang. the 100%'s were guaranteed. there is no way for me to use gpt for quizzes or exams so i actually study like a regular person. the cool thing about chatgpt is the memory of conversation. i did my own lab in bio using chatgpt and explained to it everything that was happening. asked it the lab questions. 100%. but the cool thing is that it will explain what is happening and why it is happening. if i am confused i can ask chatgpt to explain words or sentences in more depth.

i want to see the future and i will fight my way through to the end no matter what it takes. qatar cheated when they bought their bid to host the world cup. children of celebrities get a free pass right to ivy league and six figure jobs. lance armstrong cheated and he made millions of dollars doing it. my dad always says, dont hate the player hate the game. im just playing the game.

end of year stats:

4.0 GPA stem club member robotics club member internship at a biology lab

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Technical-Berry8471 t1_izdaa93 wrote

Well ChatGPT does know how to capitalize, punctuate, and express itself gramatically.

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shockcolla t1_izddxqx wrote

I just learned about ChatGpt and I’m blown away.

The way I see it, we need someone to test this outcome. If you are actually learning and genuinely become completely functional as a professional, this can revolutionize learning.

I’ll admit I’ve learned more from the internet than any classroom ever taught me.

The knowledge pool to cover before getting to the ability to understand cutting edge material in any subject matter is massive, life spanning, so the name of the game is speed.

Maybe the AI speed runs material while a professor monitors in some determined way.

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Desperate_Donut8582 t1_ize1dxu wrote

Classrooms purpose isn’t to learn stuff you’ve being taught (atleast in school) but increase critical thinking and solving problems

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PyreOfDeath97 t1_izes7mq wrote

Honestly to me the entire purpose of primary school (up to age 11 where I am) is socialisation. Under-socialised humans become ostracised by the rest of society. Secondary school (up to age 18) is to try a few flavours of different fields, assess your capabilities, and choose your specialisation, as well as what you’ve mentioned.

It’s going to take some very intelligent people to reshape education in a world of AI. Unfortunately politicians don’t strike me as being well-rounded in their problem solving skills

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tigersharkwushen_ t1_izgsydr wrote

If you don't learn stuff in classrooms, you have to learn them after you leave the classroom and then you would behind people who did learn stuff in classrooms. It's pretty horrendous advice to tell people to not learn stuff in classrooms.

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PyreOfDeath97 t1_izerqlb wrote

Yeah, the competitive edge GPT3 has over humans right now is speed. It can cut the bullshit of having to read and memorise to kill a mockingbird and get straight to interpolating the themes in the book, for example. Whether it can perform these interpolations better than a human, I doubt. As op mentioned, GPT3 has an IQ of 110. That’s better than average, but your A+ students are going to be more intelligent, perhaps far more. They can use GPT3 as a crutch on which they can build arguments, but ultimately the final product will be up to them. Of course, if you’re a student with an IQ of 80 struggling by, this tech is revolutionary. It will already completely reshape education, and we’re not even at GPT4. Presumably it will eliminate coursework based- assignments in favour of exams. You could be an art student studying themes of religion, and literally repaint DALLE-2 images, and I’d imagine end up with a good grade.

I see people as taking more of a quality assurance position, in the near future. Making sure what the AI produces is actually correct within the context of society. For example, designing a marketing campaign for kids crayons. I could see a scenario where the AI would draw on its vast wealth of knowledge, see that sex sells, and end up with an entirely inappropriate campaign. It would require a human to input the right parameters and subsequently check the work the AI has done. This is the only use I see for humans in most corporate fields, going forward.

Ultimately, GPT3 to me is the steam engine of AI. We have this fancy new tool that needs to be put to work. I can’t believe I’m alive to see the beginning of a revolution, arguably the most important revolution in all of time. One which will make our species redundant.

What I really would like to see in the future is neural interfacing; merge AI capability with human sensibility. Return the power back to the human race. Can you imagine how quickly we’ll breeze through the Kardashev scale if everyone had the intellect of einstein, or the creativity of Da Vinci? Exciting time to be alive

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visarga t1_izg08wq wrote

> What I really would like to see in the future is neural interfacing; merge AI capability with human sensibility. Return the power back to the human race.

I'd like first to run chatGPT on my desktop, like I can run Stable Diffusion. This is for reasons of freedom and privacy. It will create a new safe space for creativity, and is much easier to achieve. Maybe they can shrink the model, or maybe we get better GPUs.

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ProfessorUpham t1_izgs1nv wrote

Agreed. Let's pray that OpenAI at least starts releasing some papers in 2023. A dataset would be nice as well, but one thing at a time.

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MostRationalFeminist t1_izcqikf wrote

Stop talking about this shit, to Vice. Damn, man.

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PandaCommando69 t1_izd0nnr wrote

If it wasn't him it would be someone else. Also, cheating in school isn't some good thing --bc it devalues other people's honest efforts. Grades are going to have to be based on in person unaided testing. Handing out assignments for credit that can be done at home is now essentially pointless--everyone who can is going to use AI tools. Maybe there's some other way we could grade people that would get around this problem, but I can't think of it offhand. Open to suggestions.

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innovate_rye OP t1_izdk2h0 wrote

i thought the point of school was to learn? maybe restructure education to include ai or an agi (when it comes out) that can monitor all students. the homework would run through the ai as well

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TheSingulatarianII t1_izegbo1 wrote

The point of school is to make you a good wage slave. A 4 year paid internship would be more useful for most people.

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ramshambles t1_izdqfiw wrote

I'm with you on this. I can see education being restructured to accommodate these new AI tools with a view to making human education more productive.

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MostRationalFeminist t1_izd45c6 wrote

Still a sly and dumb move.

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m1st3r_c t1_izdkr1p wrote

Why? Sly, maybe... But this feels like the opposite of dumb to me.

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V_Shtrum t1_izdk5d4 wrote

Honest question: what's sly/dumb about it? The talking to Vice or using the AI with his essays etc?

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visarga t1_izg2oly wrote

What is there to gain from being stuck in 2019? We have chatGPT today.

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GuyWithLag t1_ize6696 wrote

>4.0 GPA stem club member robotics club member internship at a biology lab

But your thinking _as expressed by the post you wrote_ is of a teenager; you writing is sub-par and somewhat rambling. Have you actually integrated and internalized anything of what you were taught in that year, besides by osmosis from GPT-3? And no, I'm not talking about bloody facts, mate.

You probably should pass this piece through a GPT-3-equivalent cleanup process. But here lies the rub: you will need to do this for everything that you do going forward, and the facade will need to never fall.

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visarga t1_izg14yr wrote

> But here lies the rub: you will need to do this for everything that you do going forward, and the facade will need to never fall.

In a few years we'll be all surrounded by very advanced AI left and right. The trend is to use more and more AI, not less. It will become like penmanship in the age of keyboards. Everyone will use AI for writing.

BTW, you can use GPT-3 prompted with personality profiles to answer polls, rate things, act like a focus group. If you know the distribution of your audience you can focus-group the shit out of your messages to obtain the maximum impact.

> “conditioning GPT3 on thousands of socio-demographic backstories from real human participants in multiple large surveys in the United States: the 2012, 2016, and 2020 waves of the American National Election Studies (ANES)[16], and Rothschild et al.’s “Pigeonholing Partisans” data.

> When properly conditioned, is able to produce outputs biased both toward and against specific groups and perspectives in ways that strongly correspond with human response patterns along fine-grained demographic axes. In other words, these language models do not contain just one bias, but many”.

They can simulate a population in silicon for virtual polling. Everyone will want to virtual-test their tweets and articles.

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GuyWithLag t1_izg8rz0 wrote

Was this written by an AI? because it's veering hard to a similar topic after the first paragraph.

>penmanship in the age of keyboards

Bad example, in both cases you need to know what you want to write, and how to express it. I'm of the position that the approach used by OP will lead to a shallower understanding of the topics he delegates to the AI for research, and that he himself will not have the necessary foundations to generate advances (novel things, sure, he'll get from the AI recombining the current state of the art).

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paint-roller t1_izgco2a wrote

It's not well written and it's rambling...I honestly expected the op to say the post was written by ai at the end.

But as someone else wrote well probably have ai to clean up anything we write in the future. If there wasn't spell check and auto correct people would probably think I was an idiot....then again standardized spellings have only come about between the 1500s-1700s. So that's a pretty recent advancement.

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paint-roller t1_izdbcr3 wrote

I don't think Steve Jobs made the iPhone or even wanted anything to do with it initially.

"A senior iPhone engineer, Andy Grignon, is quoted in Merchant’s book saying, “The exec team was trying to convince Steve that building a phone was a great idea for Apple. He didn’t really see the path to success.”

Then Apple vice president Michael Bell reportedly sent Jobs a late-night email on Nov. 7, 2004, explaining why they really should make the phone. Jobs called Bell immediately, and they argued for hours until Jobs finally relented, Merchant writes."

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/09/12/why-steve-jobs-almost-prevented-the-apple-iphone-from-being-invented.html

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[deleted] t1_izf0u2w wrote

Been doing the same thing ! (High school though). Just yesterday I used GPT-3's new Da Vinci model to write an entire essay.

I was SHOCKED. Blown away. I gave it very specific instructions (my essay was about solving a local problem at my school) but with a lot of ambiguity in them. And in less than a minute it wrote an essay better than what I could write in an hour. I was seriously blown away by the quality of it's writing..I actually don't even know how to express my shock.

The best part is that since this is such a cutting edge technology, most people don't even KNOW about it. Hence most teachers don't go through the trouble of "AI checking" your work. The website my school uses for assignments actually has a built in originality check feature which students can use to make sure that plagiarism won't be detected. I used it yesterday and got "no matches found".

Part of me hopes it'll never reach the mainstream just so I can keep this advantage. Not really though, I'm so excited for the future.

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visarga t1_izg2xcp wrote

All the students hearing about chatGPT:

> Wait, it can do homework?

I don't think Azure has enough GPUs to solve all the homework yet.

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Quealdlor t1_iziu3ib wrote

I'm just hoping that these technologies will reduce human suffering, because there is an immense amount of it in the world. That's the most important issue. That's also why religions are still so popular. The very bad outcome would be if only a small group of people profited from all of this.

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breloomislaifu t1_izdbrne wrote

I'm not surprised. We don't need impressive AI to know that most textbook questions can be better answered by google - now we can simply answer with prose as well.

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Crypt0n0ob t1_izff2gp wrote

“Biochemistry major with a unique passion for creative destruction”

Wow, it’s almost perfect origin story for Gotham supervillain .

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Drown_The_Gods t1_izgmv9k wrote

>chatGPT scored a 1020 on the SAT and 110 on an iq test. while the iphone was an instant way to find information, ai can refine that information to anything.

I know that seems impressive, but until you’re sitting in front of something new and crack out google, or now chatGPT, and don’t know enough to know that it can’t help here, you’ll fuck up in a way only usually possible by someone with sub 80 IQ.

My point is that just so long as you‘re smart, diligent, and experienced enough to actually do the work anyway, yes it can save you lots of time.

The absolute genius of this stuff is that it turns how we interact with computers on it’s head. It’s no longer garbage in garbage out, but ‘anything up to a certain level of garbage in, something less than complete garbage out’. I find that exciting. But it does have a ceiling.

It is a great tool. I have been using it to summarise old reports, and it’s saved me days. It’s just that it can’t be trusted when the pedal hits the metal.

Roll on the next generation.

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innovate_rye OP t1_izgo09r wrote

yea i make sure to balance out braindead just throw my hw in gpt vs. actually knowing ur stuff. i said biology internship at the end bc u cant rly be a dummy to get that. chatgpt is great at explaining answers it gives but i make sure to cross reference the info

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Cr4zko t1_izd0liv wrote

Do some actual studying for once, kid.

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innovate_rye OP t1_izf4w12 wrote

yea my bad. didnt end the year with a 4.0 gpa and a biology research internship or get As on all my finals that are in person which i cant use AI for.

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fjdkf t1_izhva21 wrote

Well, it seems you didn't have to write much in a test environment.

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