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ShowerGrapes t1_j07bbr3 wrote

Reply to comment by Clarkeprops in The problem isn’t AI, it’s requiring us to work to live by jamesj

it's much simpler than that. people WANT to do things, believe it ot not. most people do anyway. they WANT to contribute. they just don't want to be threatened with starvation and homelessness if they don't do what the system deems worthy enough to be granted those things. we just have to find new ways to motivate people that don't include the get-rich scheme of the bullshit "American dream".

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Clarkeprops t1_j07ch1f wrote

I disagree. Lots of people don’t want to do anything but self indulgent pursuits. Video games, partying, drinking, eating… nobody wants to be a server and everyone wants to be served.

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ShowerGrapes t1_j07d27d wrote

they do that because this system has no place for them. because it's all geared towards profits right now. it's because all we offer is money as a carrot, and exposure and starvation as the stick. there are better and more efficient motivations out there. it just has to be tailored more. personalized. we are in a position where we can do that now our technology has advanced beyond the need of currency. we can even, if we wanted to, preserve a social hierarchy without money, royalty even.

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ProfessorUpham t1_j07g52v wrote

/u/ShowerGrapes knows what’s up.

Laziness is neither evil nor inherent to being human. It’s just another thing people do. Robots doing shitty jobs will mean people can focus on tasks that make them happy. In the long term that would reduce laziness.

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ShowerGrapes t1_j07mqx3 wrote

and it won't matter if the things people do are marketable or not i.e. are capable of making other people rich or not. we've been missing out because talented people have to work meager, soul-sucking jobs. i'd gladly tip my hat to a few more "lazy" people to have a decent life while gaining new art and philosophy. van Gogh sold exactly one painting to his brother, and the system drove him insane. he persevered anyway but his brand of insanity is the exception, not the norm.

besides, if the nebulous concept of being lazy is a genetic thing, can we really blame people who are lazy for being lazy?

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