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LeIAmNeeson t1_j5hyndg wrote

Reposting my comment from deep in one of the threads:

OP I really appreciate your post, and I'm sorry that most of the responses are shitty and pessimistic as fuck. Hopefully I never meet any of these hopeless Eeyore's who have apparently never been inspired to think deeper about why we are alive than just eating, shitting, sleeping, and fucking. So anyways fuck these other people and thanks again for thinking the way you do, because I think the same way.

Artificial intelligence poses the greatest existential dilemma that Humanity has ever faced. Every other obstacle in our past has paled in comparison. In fact, it goes against one of the very most central values in the American culture, the "American Dream". The belief that every human is deserving of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. And that through hard work, every person should be able to have a good life.

Assuming that AGI is indeed going to happen, it will render large swaths of society useless in the workforce. Humans are meant to work, and to think, and to create, and to build. That is how we evolved and I honestly believe that it is our destiny to bring about the singularity. In fact I think that human society is a major part of the singularity. We are the ones that are causing the exponential technological progress - artificial intelligence will only continue the progression forward.

But anyways, once we are all rendered "useless" in comparison to the godlike capabilities of AI, we are going to have to take a good hard look at ourselves. Most people throughout history have been inspired because they want to be the best, they want to leave a mark on the world, they want to be a leader in their village, they want to be remembered. That is what motivates us and throughout our lives it is what we dream about, tell stories about, and sing songs about.

Personally, I think that each of us should do our absolute best to put as much good out into the world as we can. Once the singularity comes, all of these other commenters are going to be sadly disappointed. Because a singularity is not something that we live beyond. So our purpose is to do whatever we feel is right in our life to positively influence the world around us. Although most of us won't have any hand in actually creating the AGI, we can do our best to "keep the lights on" so that other people can do the work the humanity was destined to accomplish. Sanitary workers can keep the streets clean, electricians can keep the lights on, politicians can do their best to keep improving our societies, and teachers can keep doing their best to train the next (and probably last) generation of humans. We can love our families and friends, be kind to the strangers in our community around us, treat nature with respect and admiration, and just be a force for good.

This might sound fairly depressing, but think of this: What are the odds that you are alive to be reading this sentence right now? Out of all of the 28 decillion + organisms alive on Earth right now, you get to experience life as the most intelligent species there is. Out of all of the 3.7 billion years of life on Earth and 200,000 years of human existence, you just happen to live right now at the pinnacle of Humanity, right when we are approaching the singularity. Out of all of the people who have ever lived, I will bet that in comparison, most of you live very privileged lives as we experience this incredible time period, when we have the full wealth of human knowledge at our fingertips with your smartphone. The odds of all of these questions are near-infinitesimally small.

And knowing all of this, I just don't understand how these other commenters can be so damn petty and small-minded and act like we are basically just dust in the wind. We are not dust. We are the greatest creatures who have ever walked the earth and we are destined to bring about the singularity. And those of us who continue to dream big are the ones who truly embody what it means to be a human. To you other commenters: have some respect for the fucking privilege you've been given to experience this life as a human, and maybe, just maybe, try not to be such assholes.

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IamDonya OP t1_j5k94pp wrote

Thank you for posting LeIamNeeson, your points resonate strongly with me. Love this passage towards the end, fantastic -

"We are not dust. We are the greatest creatures who have ever walked the earth and we are destined to bring about the singularity. And those of us who continue to dream big are the ones who truly embody what it means to be a human."

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LeIAmNeeson t1_j5keafi wrote

No problem. And thanks for the kind words. I did want to say I sort of regret coming on so strongly in reaction to the other posts in this thread. But it’s just so much easier to be skeptical in life than to have hope and to try to see the bigger picture. So sometimes it feels like you have to put up a fight against the gloomy and unimaginative ideas like what many of these other people are presenting.

I really appreciated what you said in your post as well (for example: wanting to give more than you took, and to be a net positive influence in the world). It’s such a breathe of fresh air to read. And much respect to you for standing your ground and having these conversations. One of my weaknesses is that I tend avoid these conversations because it’s hard to protect my own sense of purpose.

Last thing, one of my favorite poems of all time is “Do not go gentle into that good night” by Dylan Thomas. I’m sure you’ve heard it before, but it has always been something that I’ve fallen back on

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IamDonya OP t1_j5kjbjb wrote

Great reference and amazing poem. There's a pretty powerful scene in Interstellar where someone reads the first parts of it as they set off...

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