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ElvinRath t1_j4c3qvz wrote

That's hardly surprising.
When things happend they usually become far less impressive.
Anyway I think that your approach here is not correct. we are not one or two generations away from AI doing original research, or at least, we don't know that.

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It might happend, it might not.

About 8 years ago we thought that we would have full autonomous vehicles in 1-3 years max, and art in a hundred years, maybe.

And here we are.

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We are quite bad at reading the future. And by me, I don't mean us on reddit, I also mean the real experts.

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Look, don't get me wrong, I'm optimistic. But there is also a real posibility that 10 years into the future the only thing we have is ChatGPT 5.0, running in your phone, faster and a tiny bit better but basicaly the same.

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That will be of course very useful, but still, having that (A very powerfull AI assistant) and having AGI (Capable of conducting independent research!!!! That if fully working is the path to singularity) is fundamentally differently. And we can't predict those things because they need breakthrough.

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SoylentRox t1_j4das0y wrote

I think this depends on your definition of 'original research'. Some AI systems already do research, and are used to set the equipment for the next run based on the numerical results of all the previous runs. This is used in semiconductor process optimization and fusion energy research. You could argue that this isn't 'original' or 'research' but you could devise a lot of experiments that are "just" have the robots do an experiment similar to before, but vary certain parameters in a way the AI 'believes' (based on past data) may give new information.

The key part in that description is having robots sophisticated enough to set up experiments, something we don't currently have.

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ElvinRath t1_j4dw91r wrote

Oh, yeah, sorry.

I was answering the op and I used "original research" because he mentioned that, but I was thinking "independent" (Term that I use later in my post), meaning, "without human intervention" (Or, at least, not more intervention that "Hey, go and research on this")

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No human intervention is the requirement for the concept of singularity (Well,,, or augmented humans that can comprehend in seconds what actually take years, but that's probably not a human anymore... :D )

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SoylentRox t1_j4edj94 wrote

I am not sure that you would not get a singularity if there was only a small amount of human involvement, say 1000 times as much research as we do now with the same number of people working on it.

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