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SkaldCrypto t1_j57m7qj wrote

Reply to comment by Fmeson in Google to relax AI safety rules to compete with OpenAI by Surur

Google being a pioneer in the space doesn't mean they kept up. More likely, they trying to frantically leverage their massive data sets and compute to create a new model.

This will be trivial but look at Microsoft. They bought a huge stake Openai then immediately laid off their internal ai team. With the exception of a few choice individuals, I assume Google is equally bloated.

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TFenrir t1_j57v4lg wrote

Have you actually seen the models coming out of Google? Read their research papers? There is no question that they are not just pioneers, they literally set the benchmarks

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visarga t1_j59tx2d wrote

Maybe their 'amazing' PaLM model has issues we don't know about. chatGPT was intensely and adversarially studied for a month and a half.

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TFenrir t1_j59zier wrote

I don't think that's the case. Please read the papers, look into the actual research - it sounds like you are like... Mad at Google, but that's a separate consideration than the tech they have. It's unquestionably better than any other LLMs we know about, regardless of how you feel about Google

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visarga t1_j5lv4bc wrote

The point I was making is that without direct access to the model we don't know. It's easy to hide the embarrassing things and only show the nice ones. Maybe the model does get lower perplexity, but it also has to be aligned properly, and OpenAI ain't so open about their alignment work, we can't be sure what is the gap now.

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-ZeroRelevance- t1_j58czn7 wrote

Google are clearly the most capable group in the space right now, just look at any of the research coming out from them over the past year and it’s clear that they are dominating any of the other labs

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monkorn t1_j5b0saa wrote

So were the brilliant engineers at Xerox PARC. So were the brilliant engineers at Kodak, at Bell Labs. Wozniak begged HP to let him work on computers and they said no.

Monopolies allow these companies to hire the smartest most brilliant people. They don't release products. The managers are to afraid that they will spoil their golden goose, and by the time they act, it's to late.

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[deleted] t1_j580fwl wrote

>laid off their internal ai team.

I've seen no mention of this anywhere.

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Fabulous_Exam_1787 t1_j594upl wrote

Google is by far the leader. They invented the transformer model that GPT is based on after all. Where they differ is that they always keep it to themselves and release papers but no code and. k access to anyone outside Google.

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