Desperate_Food7354 t1_j5193pf wrote
Reply to comment by AGI_69 in Instead of escaping to virtual realities, what if we just made our reality as good as any virtual reality could be? by [deleted]
What makes you think we live in a simulation? Multiverse seems just as likely and given so the odds are equally in either favor given infinity.
AGI_69 t1_j51bzcg wrote
Multiverse hypothesis does not change the probabilities of us being in simulation. Every Universe where technological civilization is possible, will also have billions (or more) simulations. Simulations are natural product of computation.
Desperate_Food7354 t1_j51nhuf wrote
The nature of infinity doesn't care, even if there are an infinite number of simulated universes there are also an infinite number of non-simulated universes, this gives no insight to whether you are in one or not.
AGI_69 t1_j51sfg5 wrote
You can't compare infinities like that. The infinite sets have different elements, so it's not mathematically correct to say that they are same size, or that probability in landing in any of them is equal.
More importantly, as far as we know, infinities exists only in mathematics - you are creating additional strong assumption here.
The simulation hypothesis only needs very weak assumptions compared to Multiverse AND infinite number of sub-universes
Desperate_Food7354 t1_j52gfjm wrote
I would assume a multiverse would contain a set larger than any possible simulated set considering they are offspring of the multiverse in which not every universe necessarily has simulated realities.
AGI_69 t1_j52jsmp wrote
Every universe that allows technological civilization will contain many simulations. Therefore, there will be more simulations, than real universes.
Desperate_Food7354 t1_j52zvwo wrote
Are you insinuating solipsism?
AGI_69 t1_j54bhkg wrote
No
Desperate_Food7354 t1_j57bhyh wrote
You would have no ability to prove otherwise though.
AGI_69 t1_j57fyp6 wrote
I don't see how solipsism is relevant in any way here. It's completely unrelated philosophical issue
Desperate_Food7354 t1_j57h2kv wrote
If simulation theory were to exist what is to say you wouldn't be the only one inside of it, and why would you even be simulated into this era where technology is limited, are the homeless drug addicted people in a simulation or just simulations for your own personal world view in which you diagnose as a simulation to fit to your own model of how you want the universe to be? It makes no sense for this world / time period to be simulated.
AGI_69 t1_j57v0yz wrote
Quite the opposite, the era just before AI is invented is perfect for simulation. It's the most interesting era in human history. Once AI is invented, humans will not be the ones doing all the progress, they will just watch AI do everything better.
As to, who is simulated and who isn't, that's separate issue. Personally, I chose to treat everyone as equal to me. But I disagree, that just because homeless people exists, the simulation hypothesis is false.
Desperate_Food7354 t1_j58zbn4 wrote
Not that it is false but would imply real suffering and tragedy, who would choose to simulate themselves in this era as a suffering person who knows nothing of ai lmao or terminal brain cancer etc
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