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turnip_burrito t1_j4fhm2j wrote

Reply to comment by [deleted] in What void are people trying to fill with transhumanism? by [deleted]

Okay.

> I wouldn't.

You wouldn't believe if a person who constantly accrues wealth says they aren't satisfied, isn't satisfied? Odd.

> So, since drugs are a form of technology, would you then say that spending weeks on end strung out on heroin is living?

A very narrow form of living which also has extremely adverse, painful effects on the individual and others.

But I am sure you understand heroin is not the only form of technology, and not the way most people use it, and not what my focus is on. Are you here to have an honest discussion, or to be a bad faith contrarian?

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[deleted] OP t1_j4g5h5f wrote

> You wouldn't believe if a person who constantly accrues wealth says they aren't satisfied, isn't satisfied? Odd.

Not by the constant wealth accumulation alone. These people usually have other people in their lives.

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[deleted] OP t1_j4g5tpb wrote

> But I am sure you understand heroin is not the only form of technology, and not the way most people use it, and not what my focus is on. Are you here to have an honest discussion, or to be a bad faith contrarian?

The former.

My most common method of calling someone's idea into question is to simply create an idea that creates a contradiction with their own idea or logical form. This is actually an extremely effective reasoning method.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_absurdum

It's one of my favorites, but it is a pain in the ass to people I am discussing with, so sorry in advance!

I would point out that the contradiction doesn't make the idea instantly wholly wrong, but it usually just illustrates a sort of incompleteness and need for refinement. :)

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[deleted] OP t1_j4g7hy8 wrote

I want to add in addition... my real goal is to get people to think more complexly and get out of their boxes, as boxes just damage reason in the first place.

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