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MrTurdFace69 t1_j9nvcnk wrote

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There is no true time constant. It's all relative, as Spacetime is curved by mass/energy. So there doesn't exist a point that isn't affected by mass/gravity, that we know of.

There is no end to the gravitational field a black hole produces. In fact there is no end to the gravitational field that your body produces.

They both extend the entire universe. However, far enough away, their effects become negligible.

If there are two 1kg spheres of metal in space, and they are 1 meter apart. Then, to the human eye, it seems like they experience no gravitational effect.

Yet they will experience the same gravitational effect that 2 earth mass objects would experience when they are 6x10^25 meters apart.

I think what you're trying to understand is sort of what Einstein was trying to understand when he was figuring out how to imagine what happens if you could travel along side by side with a beam of light. Which would basically mean you experience no time.

However, he concluded it's not possible to accelerate to that speed and that the speed of light was constant for all observers, and hence came up with the special relativity theory. Which eventually led to general relativity. Which, ironically in this discussion, predicted black holes haha.

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i_can_has_rock t1_j9q9uny wrote

let me simplify

there -is- a true time constant that isnt affected by dilation or relativity

it exists as an abstract by itself and isnt dependent on either of those

is what im saying

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MrTurdFace69 t1_j9rwanz wrote

But I'm saying that doesn't exist in reality whatsoever.

If you have mass (or even light itself does this) in this universe, then you will effect the time dilation of other mass objects and they will effect you. These effects permeate all of the universe.

Sure, you can imagine such a place. But so what? It wouldn't apart of this universe, because by definition it can't be.

If you're just using this as an imagination technique to describe what you'd see the universe do if you experience no time, then ok. But I don't think referring to relativity is necessary in that instance. I mean you could just instead say "what would the universe look like if I experienced no time?"

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