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TheLoomingMoon t1_jbqj6db wrote
Like a bad comedy named "Space Force?"
12edDawn t1_jbqoa0x wrote
neither could the general populace in 1947.
_zerokarma_ t1_jbqqb5i wrote
Was there alternative names being considered at the time?
Sassy-irish-lassy t1_jbqqt5e wrote
Yeah, could you imagine if they renamed the United States Army Air Corps something stupid like the "air force" lol
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mrmow49120 t1_jbqw28r wrote
Space force is just such a cartoon character name
CurtisLeow t1_jbqzsr7 wrote
Space Guard. It’s less silly sounding, and more consistent with the actual mission. They’re the space equivalent of the Coast Guard.
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Uhgfda t1_jbr3rxw wrote
So the pads used for space x landings have been allocated to another company? Interesting.
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baronvonpoopy t1_jbr4mjc wrote
Hey, it wasn’t great but it wasn’t BAD. The episode with Congress was spot on!
reddit455 t1_jbr5r1y wrote
SX can land on a barge.. they test engines on those pads.
ArmChairAnalyst86 t1_jbr5v6u wrote
It is. It's on Netflix. It's called "Space Force"
Actually kinda funny, but it's still bad. It's background noise.
Uhgfda t1_jbr5w1v wrote
No, those are their terrestrial landing pads.
TheKingPotat t1_jbr6jme wrote
Satellite corps or orbital corps sounds much better
TheEarthquakeGuy t1_jbr8oz8 wrote
Not only do they land on the pads, the launch companies in question currently are developing rockets that launch from mobile launchers - Daytona for Phantom and Dauntless for Vaya Space.
So in theory, these launchers should be able to use the concrete pads without interruption and SpaceX move any impending RTLS flights to ships.
rider1deep t1_jbrjdup wrote
Should’ve been called the United States Space Command and be a department of the Air Force. USSC would’ve been an awesome acronym.
MooseBurgers511 t1_jbrkcg4 wrote
John Malkovich was trying so hard to make that show work
TheMonkDan t1_jbrmoh9 wrote
Tell me you dont understand the DoD structure without telling me you don't know.
murder-farts t1_jbrn0pm wrote
I looked that woman right in her orbital corps and I said… ^biiiiiiiiiiich
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FrostyNegotiation934 t1_jbrrlih wrote
Its because they may be real but they are a joke.
Imeanttodothat10 t1_jbrsru9 wrote
I found space force really enjoyable. I wish it hadn't been cancelled.
CrimsonEnigma t1_jbrt9gk wrote
The PNAC first advocated for the Space Force in "Rebuilding America’s Defenses", a September 2000 document. But talk of spinning off the Air Force Space Command into its own branch, including the name "Space Force", dates back to the 1990s.
Also, although this is kind of beside the point, PNAC didn't become the Tea Party. PNAC went defunct in 2006. Its remnants would go on to form the Foreign Policy Initiative (FPI) in 2009. The Tea Party rose to prominence in 2009, but not out of PNAC or FPI; if anything, it came out of Ron Paul's ill-fated 2008 Presidential Run. The Tea Party movement and FPI were at odds with each other early-on, with Tea Party leaders accusing FPI of trying to "co-opt their movement" (the dispute largely arose over whether or not military spending should be lowered or raised).
CrimsonEnigma t1_jbrtbmm wrote
It is in the Department of the Air Force.
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mfb- t1_jbru7pl wrote
SpaceX lands on the ground once every 1-2 months and there are two landing zones (only some FH flights need both) so sharing the pads might work. If not, building another concrete pad isn't a big deal.
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danteheehaw t1_jbrw3tl wrote
But some ancient astronaut theorist believe that they are in fact, extraterrestrial landing pads. How could a primitive civilization, such as Florida, have access to this kind of technology?
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CrispyRussians t1_jbrxapf wrote
Didn't try hard enough. Practically falling asleep when Steve carrel wasn't carrying it and even then it sucked. I also would've watched a second season.
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NerfSchlerfen t1_jbs1nto wrote
SpaceX is planning to retire the Falcon rockets once Starship is operational (and the F9/H backlog is exhausted, I guess)
RedArmyBushMan t1_jbs1vzj wrote
United States Army Corp of Astronauts was my vote.
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mfb- t1_jbs50o1 wrote
The Falcon family won't retire before 2030 the earliest because it's flying Dragon missions to the ISS, but Falcon boosters returning to Florida might become rare once Starship can fly routinely.
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NerfSchlerfen t1_jbs5omx wrote
If all they're being used for in 8 years time is crewed missions they might just fly the last 10 missions expendable. IIRC though there are also some Artemis missions booked for Falcon Heavy?
My personal guess is those contracts won't live more than a few years once it becomes clear what a gamechanger Starship is but that's just speculation :P
Raffolans t1_jbs756r wrote
Should have called it vacuum force instead of space force
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_Odaeus_ t1_jbsbj2h wrote
There is a second season of Space Force.
Xeglor-The-Destroyer t1_jbschh0 wrote
> The Falcon family won't retire before 2030 the earliest because it's flying Dragon missions to the ISS
Probably, yeah, although Dragon missions don't RTLS so SpaceX can give up the landing pads while still fulfilling their ISS contracts.
stewake t1_jbsd1mz wrote
Yeah, and grizzly Adam’s had a beard
BillHicksScream t1_jbse0q4 wrote
Yep. "Hey, lets add another branch to the military, no way our rivals wont freak out and increase their spending".
But its "cool" to the immature, so here we are.
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bigbaltic t1_jbsidc8 wrote
It's not just astronauts though, just like the navy isn't carriers.
The space force also manages space technologies for intelligence, communication, etc
ElDeguello66 t1_jbsk7ko wrote
Are we still talking about the Netflix show
porcupineapplepieces t1_jbskoi4 wrote
Space Navy? Spacey ?
Fizzy_Astronaut t1_jbsqgxk wrote
Enjoyable isn’t the word I would have chosen either. I had high hopes cause Steve Carell, but Jesus was that bad. I’m amazed they got a second season.
Fairway5 t1_jbstek2 wrote
There is a United States Space Command and the Space Force is a department of the Air Force….
Dragonshaggy t1_jbstnu0 wrote
There already is a U.S. Space Command - USSPACECOM. It’s the combatant command responsible applying war fighting assets from all service components (army, navy, marines, Air Force, and space force) in defense of the space domain. Similar to the combatant command USEUCOM is responsible for European defense by applying war fighting assets from all of the services. Space Command is the combatant arm, space force is the component responsible for organizing, training, and equipping space forces.
cybercuzco t1_jbswyhf wrote
Yeah, should have been starfleet.
smallbiceps90 t1_jbswzf4 wrote
Glad I’m not the only one. It was as good a comedy as you’re gonna get these days, especially on Netflix
descendingangel87 t1_jbsx4o6 wrote
Just look at the landscape of Merritt Island. You can see how someone shaped the land to make runways for space craft!
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rosen380 t1_jbt3mbr wrote
The Mongooses. That's a cool team name, The Fighting Mongooses.
LegitimateGift1792 t1_jbt3rcz wrote
That site sits on an energy vortex, even the Sumerians knew this.
danielravennest t1_jbtisbu wrote
No, they will be shared use. A "Launch complex" is pretty large because of the safety buffer zone needed around it. These were originally set up for larger rockets. A near empty Falcon 9 and these smaller rockets going up are smaller hazards, so they can be spaced enough to not damage each other, but still share one launch complex.
Also, SpaceX doesn't use the landing pads very often any more, and when they do the rocket is gone in a few hours. As long as the new rockets aren't trying to launch at the same time (i.e. loaded with fuel), they don't really conflict.
danielravennest t1_jbtjdwx wrote
Falcon Heavy is planned to be the launcher for parts of the Lunar Gateway station in lunar orbit. Starship, which has its own launch pads, is going to be the excessively oversized lunar lander, plus tanker flights to refill it in low Earth orbit.
notataco007 t1_jbtjiwb wrote
"The Air Force is dumb"
You in 1947
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danielravennest t1_jbtk39z wrote
Space Command and Space Division were the parts of the USAF that previously did this job.
Decronym t1_jbtkzxi wrote
Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I've seen in this thread:
|Fewer Letters|More Letters| |-------|---------|---| |ASDS|Autonomous Spaceport Drone Ship (landing platform)| |DoD|US Department of Defense| |RTLS|Return to Launch Site| |USAF|United States Air Force|
^(4 acronyms in this thread; )^(the most compressed thread commented on today)^( has 18 acronyms.)
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RedArmyBushMan t1_jbtnss8 wrote
Marines aren't just aquatic fighters. Sometimes you have to sacrifice functionality in the name of style.
cjameshuff t1_jbtuy8w wrote
> and SpaceX move any impending RTLS flights to ships.
RTLS missions only exist in the first place because it's cheaper and faster, and avoids contention for the ASDS ships, which are unavailable for significant periods of time as they transport cores back and move out to support the next landing. Moving an RTLS landing to an ASDS has a substantial cost and schedule impact, and isn't something SpaceX is going to want to do regularly.
TheEarthquakeGuy t1_jbug6z9 wrote
Absolutely, but the cadence of these launchers is going to be limited and should be around the time that SpaceX is switching to Starship so it should be ok
_zerokarma_ t1_jbuir45 wrote
Space Command sounds better
New_Poet_338 t1_jbv2980 wrote
No it is way sillier. It sounds like the space version of the National Guard. Also the Coast Guard is more of a law enforcement agency.
CarbonIceDragon t1_jbvcf4y wrote
If I had named it, I'd have gone with "spacy", just because watching macross as a kid has that feeling at some level like the right name for a space military branch to me.
WillhelmWallace t1_jbwe74d wrote
Grizzly Adams DID have a beard!
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ThePrinceOfCheese t1_jc62hhz wrote
Commands can not be branches because multiple branches can be a part of a singular command.
Such as Central Command, which has the Navy, Army, Air Force, and Marine Corps, which are all under one command.
cheap_as_chips t1_jbqiazv wrote
I still can't take the name "Space Force" seriously. Sounds like something from a bad comedy