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HolyGig t1_ixem6ev wrote

>The irrational, illogical reasoning you've got is that there can only be winners or losers.

That is actually what you are doing. China and the US are "winning" in space while Europe is losing, according to this statement which you are defending.

Europe already has Galileo. They already have independent access to space. Your examples makes no sense. This is a French politician whining that Europe should spend more on space because most of that money would go to French companies lol, not because they actually give a fuck about space.

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lagavulinski t1_ixevi61 wrote

What statement am I defending? I think you're lost. I'm responding to the person who says that aerospace contractors are the only winners here. That's just factually completely wrong.

With regards to the statement about the need to compete in space: Historically, in the context of developing the next generation/era of technologies (agriculture, horse riding, archery, sailing, the whole industrial revolution, technological revolution, information age, and now, the space age), countries that don't invest in gaining the knowledge and innovation in that technological age tend to get left behind. By pushing to be competitive with the leaders in the field, it forces advancements on a quicker timeline, and benefits everyone.

Edit: You're just going to downvote me without any counter-argument?

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HolyGig t1_ixeyruo wrote

Somebody is certainly lost, yes.

We are not talking about individual countries, we are taking about Europe. The French want Europe to pay them to be the space power on behalf of the whole EU. If you don't see any issue with that then I don't know what to tell you.

>aerospace contractors are the only winners here.

A singular French aerospace contractor specifically, but yes that would be correct.

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