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HolyGig t1_ixeo1rj wrote

Reply to comment by LaunchTransient in Bruno Le Maire: Europe needs ‘unwavering unity’ against China, US in space by Soupjoe5

>Until America decides we aren't, and then we're all in the shit.The US typically is friendly with us until we get in the way of their business interests or show any kind of deviation from US foreign policy.

Says the people signing tech and investment deals with China. Says the people who spent the last decade ignoring all warnings about Russia and now American taxpayers are footing the bill because Europe can't handle its own backyard. Again.

Man sometimes I wonder why we even fucking bother lol. Europe should be allowed to drown in its own hubris one of these days.

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toodroot t1_ixepwx1 wrote

European taxpayers got stiffed, too: that Soyuz launch pad in South America is now idle, and Arianespace appears to have had to give OneWeb some of their money back when Russia stopped launching OneWeb.

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HolyGig t1_ixewp7a wrote

European taxpayers should have gotten stiffed. It was their votes and their leadership which led to that outcome. Co dependence was literally the strategy. Meanwhile Americans have already spent $40B with Biden looking for $40B more to fight a war we had no agency in creating.

Independence from the US is great and all but partnering with scum to achieve it is both hypocritical and counterproductive.

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HolyGig t1_ixidenu wrote

Who else's sake would it be for if not Europe's? The US itself does hardly any business with Russia and is not threatened by them in any way shape or form. Europe's security is of vital importance to US interests even if Europeans themselves don't seem to give a shit.

A little off topic but the overall theme is independence from the US

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