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Em_Adespoton t1_j10mcww wrote

Cryogenics and wormholes are the two best future options, but neither is understood well enough at this point to be presently feasible.

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RipCityGGG t1_j10r4fn wrote

you could freeze fertilised embryos for a long time, then have AI robots raise them or holograms or something.

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houseman1131 t1_j10s5j7 wrote

The issue with that is you're literally making slaves for your mission. They didn't choose to be born we would be forcing them into existence and into maintaining a ship.

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tropicsun t1_j10tqiz wrote

"They didn't choose to be born we would be forcing them into existence and into maintaining a ship."

so like humans on earth?

Earth is just a vessel...

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CommentToBeDeleted t1_j10uf6q wrote

Not to be argumentative here, but what are babies, if not unwilling participants in our society?

I mean we choose to have kids, they do not choose to be born, they just are, fully against their will.

Generally, society creates pressure that forces them into school and work, abiding by rules, customs, and laws, for virtually their entire lives. In fact, failure to do so could mean incarceration or death.

And that's just among many of the developed nations, where most of would respond with a resounding "yes" for whether or not we would want to have been born.

Suppose you were a child who was born during the holocaust, who lived and died in a concentration camp. Would you still have wanted to be born? What about a baby born with cancer or a child into poverty, who lives hungry and cold and dies no different?

Babies are absolutely unwilling participants in their creation and are more ore less stuck into whatever situation, place, economic class and time period they are born into.

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RipCityGGG t1_j10sk9j wrote

Sounds like a movie plot, were they grow up realise, slingshot the ship around and try to make it to see home

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Orpheus75 t1_j10tx2c wrote

The point is to raise them the last few years of the journey so they are educated functioning adults when they arrive. The robots do all of the maintenance.

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redruben234 t1_j10u9wl wrote

While an interesting philosophical problem not one with a good solution at all.

If it's our only way to colonize planets outside our solar system I think it's worth doing

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SiskoandDax t1_j10udik wrote

Two sets of slaves. The AI arguably could be one, especially left to their own devices to evolve for several decades.

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Bipogram t1_j10wupy wrote

<pedant mode: on>
Cryogenics is known - it's been studied since we liquefied air in the last millenium.

Cryonics is a field (but not entirely full) of woo and hope.

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Em_Adespoton t1_j11hnsf wrote

Point taken. I was trying to keep it as broad as possible, since there are more solutions than just freezing and re-animating humans that could be used.

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codefyre t1_j117k5h wrote

> Cryogenics and wormholes are the two best future options

I'd argue that there's a third option that's far better understood and has already been mentioned a few times. Biological immortality. If we can find solutions to problems like aging and disease, problems we're currently researching and resolving, it raises the real possibility that human lifespans could be extended on a near-perpetual basis. Yes, there are a lot of hurdles to overcome, but there's no reason why human lifespans couldn't reach 100,000+ years at some point in the distant future. Fix the problems that kill us, and figure out how to replace the parts that wear out.

Spending 2,500 years transiting to another star system isn't such a big deal if you've got a projected lifespan of 80,000 years.

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