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CommentToBeDeleted t1_j10uf6q wrote

Not to be argumentative here, but what are babies, if not unwilling participants in our society?

I mean we choose to have kids, they do not choose to be born, they just are, fully against their will.

Generally, society creates pressure that forces them into school and work, abiding by rules, customs, and laws, for virtually their entire lives. In fact, failure to do so could mean incarceration or death.

And that's just among many of the developed nations, where most of would respond with a resounding "yes" for whether or not we would want to have been born.

Suppose you were a child who was born during the holocaust, who lived and died in a concentration camp. Would you still have wanted to be born? What about a baby born with cancer or a child into poverty, who lives hungry and cold and dies no different?

Babies are absolutely unwilling participants in their creation and are more ore less stuck into whatever situation, place, economic class and time period they are born into.

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