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BuzzyShizzle t1_j2bhj51 wrote

Reply to comment by the_zelectro in I don’t believe in the black hole. by Rabbitlooker

Even if you criticize the models that still doesn't justify dismissing the thing we are attempting to explain though does it?

Its kind if like saying I don't believe in clouds. I can see them but I don't believe in them? That's nonsense. I might think they aren't explained properly but I can't say I don't believe in them.

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the_zelectro t1_j2bhufe wrote

I think most of his initial description was lame. But, he promptly deleted it. As for the actual question he posed though? Perfectly valid.

The model has issues, and alternative ideas might be worth looking into. Measured skepticism doesn't hurt, especially in science.

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BuzzyShizzle t1_j2bi3xd wrote

That's not proper skepticism though. Skepticism is what gets us closer to understanding black holes. Simply denying their existence isn't helpful skepticism at all.

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the_zelectro t1_j2biazx wrote

He didn't deny their existence, he just said he doesn't believe. Einstein himself had the same opinion, despite discovering some of the equations.

And, tbh: since the model says to divide by zero, that's a perfectly fair stance. "Black hole" might be erroneous terminology for these objects that we're now detecting.

I think the model is correct myself, but it is incomplete. We definitely don't have a good idea of what dividing by zero even means.

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