Submitted by Anonymous_Asker0813 t3_10q5clz in space
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SaltySandSailor t1_j6nygmu wrote
This. Politicians only care about getting elected. If creating space related jobs in their area will help do that they’ll support it. If not then they won’t.
Better-Win-4113 t1_j6nzdcv wrote
lol fuck, I gotta mute Space now? I follow the pokemon TCG page and I swear if I see, "do republicans or Democrats like Pikachu more?" I'm going to throw myself off a 3 story building in a rural area so I break my legs and either die of dehydration or animals find me before then.
TerrapinBreh t1_j6o61od wrote
Division, as the overlords desire. It fucking nauseating.
tehblaken t1_j6o79ys wrote
Ok but like…. Who would save you first democrats or republicans? Can we PLEASE boil everything down to red vs blue then tell me I’m good if I support the same one you do?
3_14-r8 t1_j6o6twx wrote
Sounds to me they are just trying to figure out who they should support in order to get more funding for space exploration. It's an innocent question quickly answered by saying "neither, funding depends on the publics interest in it".
Apexx86 t1_j6o6v7e wrote
Yeah, I'm leaving this subreddit. All it is now is clickbait articles and political discourse. /r/spaceporn is better.
Anonymous_Asker0813 OP t1_j6o8gsd wrote
Damn I was just someone’s last straw
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Bewaretheicespiders t1_j6nyk39 wrote
None of them do, sadly. Bill Nelson was an awful nomination from the current administration, for example. Neither side has a sensible vision for space and they all use NASA to score political points.
markedbeamazed t1_j6nz0z0 wrote
Neither. It depends on the person not the party.
thedrakeequator t1_j6nz3rs wrote
It depends on what decade you're talking about.
During the cold war it was probably Republicans.
But recently they've been responsible for cutting budget.
Salvia_McLovin t1_j6o20qh wrote
Nobody spent as much as Kennedy did on NASA.
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thedrakeequator t1_j6o11vh wrote
So the reason it went down under Obama was because the "Big Spending" republicans forced him to cut it.
But yes, outside of the cold war it does seem to be random.
Spooky2000 t1_j6o1ylo wrote
>So the reason it went down under Obama was because the "Big Spending" republicans forced him to cut it.
Obama canceled the Constelation project without going through congress at all.
https://phys.org/news/2011-02-obama-five-year-nasa.html
https://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/space/02/01/nasa.budget.moon/index.html
But you're right, must have been all those pesky Republicans..
Icutthemetal t1_j6ob76o wrote
Sure he did because he thought they should be focusing on new propulsion and heavy lift rockets to make space exploration cheaper and easier. The constellation project was to return to the moon. Which when you think about it the return on the dollar isn't there. NASAs budget actually increased almost every year under Obama.
https://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2010/feb/01/nasa-budgets-us-spending-space-travel
tiy24 t1_j6o6xoe wrote
They were attacking him for spending and he cut nasa in an attempt to appeal to republicans who wouldn’t accept military cuts.
Spacecadet222 t1_j6o7jgn wrote
Read it, it's an Obama administration smear. The part about Obama's "antipathy towards American exceptionalism" should have told you this was some editorializing bullshit.
If you don't recall, the Obama administration was at the time trying to pass a lil measure called the Affordable Care Act and receiving withering criticism over it's propensity to swell federal deficits. It's not surprising he made trade-offs for a program his own White House commission deemed infeasible with current funding.
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Salvia_McLovin t1_j6o241d wrote
Kennedy spearheaded the biggest investment into NASA. He got the ball really moving.
UmbralRaptor t1_j6nxdm0 wrote
It's a weird back and forth as to which party is better. (Usually as a side effect of other things)
Superbroccomole t1_j6nyh2u wrote
Republicans! They want to gain control of the space lasers that start California fires.
theprofit2517 t1_j6nzrh5 wrote
Why build space lasers when bad forest management will do it for you?
frog_jesus_ t1_j6o5md5 wrote
Daughter of a lifelong NASA employee. Democrats consistently fund NASA better. Republicans also like to contrive a debt ceiling crisis (like they're about to again), which has historically damaged the local economy in Houston. It's not just government employees who are affected - it's every vendor, every business those employees utilize. The entire city shuts down.
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Max-gy t1_j6nznxf wrote
I think we would advance more quickly with the private sector as soon as space gives opportunities for new startups. Whatever they may be: from telecommunication to grow food on zero gravity,…
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3_14-r8 t1_j6o66id wrote
More to do with the publics desire than anything. Funding for nasa goes up with people's interest in it.
Classic-Committee728 t1_j6ob46g wrote
Neither do. The bureaucracy only cares if the public does. Then, it uses that opportunity to embezzle taxpayers' dollars. Just as it did with covid funding. 4 trillion taxpayer dollars unaccounted for.
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Anonymous_Asker0813 OP t1_j6nygx8 wrote
Oh yeah Elon is carrying the space industry rn. When I was at Nasa for an internship one of the senior engineers said that “Elon is the best thing to happen to the space industry since the Apollo Program”.
Psycho_bob0_o t1_j6o54br wrote
While Elon certainly contributed let's not forget most of what he spends is aimed at cornering the launch market.. the lunar lander is a good example of how this could come back to bite us later on.
His contribution is comparable to that of Bezons and the virgin orbit guy.
Large_Cube_Unaligned t1_j6nyvd2 wrote
Neither, really. But the Republicans would be the first to slash NASA's budget, so there's that.
theprofit2517 t1_j6nzmks wrote
One of the first acts of Obama was to cancel a bunch of Nasa program funding that Republicans had pushed. It's not party based, it's individual politicians and their agendas.
lmmsoon t1_j6o25hu wrote
Obama cut spendings at NASA and stopped space shuttle program
TheBroadHorizon t1_j6o50kt wrote
The end date for the space shuttle was set during the Bush administration.
5jkm3d7gk t1_j6o0m77 wrote
Neither, Elon Musk is the main driver for space. Bill Nelson needed to retire before he left the Senate!
Inter-418 t1_j6o3pkc wrote
Obama cut NASA funding while president if I’m not mistaken. That’s why we had to send our astronauts up in Russian crafts for a few years
-November15th- t1_j6o3zbv wrote
Republicans are against anything everything. They don’t better or advance anything in this society.
Democrats lay down and let the republicans do what they want.
Neither side actually cares about anything other than their money.
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Icutthemetal t1_j6obonj wrote
Np he didn't. It went up almost every year under him.
https://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2010/feb/01/nasa-budgets-us-spending-space-travel
Big_Improvement_1702 t1_j6oq4kz wrote
Your stats are only through 2012. After that they are "estimated." In 2013 Obama cut NASAs funding. Next time look at all the facts and don't cherry pick them.
Icutthemetal t1_j6osr4n wrote
Yup then went back up in 2014. Like I said, it was raised ALMOST every year under Obama. Learn how to read.
pork26 t1_j6nwtwi wrote
It's not the party that makes the difference if the politician has any space industry or space related operations in their district.