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placebotwo t1_j91vdaz wrote

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The US infrastructure as a whole is fuct - but trying to fix our roads and rails doesn't line the pockets of our elected officals as well as LMT, NOC, RTX, et al.

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DrDankDankDank t1_j929a5d wrote

There’s one party specifically stopping progress. The republicans. It’s not a both sides thing.

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maaku7 t1_j92ihsl wrote

Out here in California we're an effective one-party Democratic state, and we've spent $100 billion on a high speed rail project without anything to show for it, due to corruption. It is absolutely a both sides thing.

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ankisaves t1_j96n6hn wrote

Combination of post hoc and begging the question fallacies.

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brettsolem t1_j96h9rc wrote

Californians voted for the high-speed rail when it was clearly unreasonable and unnecessary. Just dumb voters.

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maaku7 t1_j97d5kl wrote

There is significant transit need for a high speed rail connection between Los Angeles and San Francisco. That is what voters agreed to.

Of course, lobbyists got in the way and what actually happened was an unfinished Sacramento <-> Bakersfield line that nobody will use.

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brettsolem t1_j97gv4k wrote

I don’t agree with the significant need. Hour flights between Burbank to Oak are and have been cost reasonable and traffic between and outside the cities does not suffer congestion problems. It would make more sense between LA and SD.

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5kyl3r t1_j94kw4v wrote

one side is way worse, especially with human rights and human decency related topcis, but you're right, it's mostly just politicians. the people who'd be great at it are usually like "fuck that". the shitty people that see an opportunity to use it to get rich are the ones that often end up in politics, unfortunately. and that's shitty about the rail thing, that's actually a thing russia has done many times. the metro station in chelyabinsk is a big example of this. millions of tax money going into it, decades later, still nothing, every so often, when the corrupt want more money, they bring the topic back up, make a big splash in the media about it, get more tax money, rinse and repeat

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DrDankDankDank t1_j92quo6 wrote

Which party just blocked the huge federal infrastructure bill again?

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HCN_Mist t1_j92vixp wrote

I think the guys point is that you can spend the money and end up with the same thing.

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DrDankDankDank t1_j92vsoy wrote

I agree. I just hate the “both sides” thing when one is clearly and demonstrably worse than the other overall. But yeah, I agree with him that 100B on a train that doesn’t exist is some seriously corrupt bullshit.

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ThatDinosaucerLife t1_j93exyy wrote

Both sides are bad, one is worse than the other.

No one has to be a hero here.

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DrDankDankDank t1_j93xnq1 wrote

I love how I’m getting downvoted just for pointing out the truth though.

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ankisaves t1_j96mhy5 wrote

Yeahhh the propaganda programming has only become more and more effective at convincing people to vote against their own interests. Been a problem for a long time, but these algorithms work on all of us, even when we are aware of their effect, it still affects us subconsciously.

Those who think they are impervious are generally the most pliable.

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AKravr t1_j93aljs wrote

I didn't know Biden was a Republican when he crushed the rail workers strike.

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DrDankDankDank t1_j93xke9 wrote

Yeah that was a bitch move on his part. Still a better track record than the republicans by like 1000%.

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ScarPirate t1_j93v0bg wrote

During the 2020 election, i was quoted as saying "If i wanted to vote republican, I'd vote for Biden"

2 years in, and i still maintain that position.

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ND_82 t1_j963wpp wrote

Well it’s still a very inaccurate opinion. Is he great? Nope. Is he a Republican? Not at all.

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MainlyPardoo t1_j93gc47 wrote

Meanwhile you have Buttegieg acting like he can't do anything about transportation... as the secretary of transportation. And Biden blocked the strike, of course. It's both parties. It is 100% a both sides thing. Trump cut the regulations, and Biden and Buttegieg have done NOTHING to help the people of Ohio.

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TSIDATSI t1_j93ncvi wrote

Derailment was an accident. We have a fire in Moody Al been burning since Dec. started by lightening.

People and animals very sick. Had to leave home. Afraid to return.

The real problem?

City could do nothing until state Dept of Environmental Services approved.

State DES could do nothing until EPA and FEMA approved. Federal government does nothing between Thanksgiving and after New Year's. Not to mention working from home.

So the teeny tiny toxic chemicals fire in a landfill that could have been put out by the local volunteer fire dept is now a roaring blaze, displacing families, spreading toxins and unable to be doused.

The problem is us. We the People who voted clowns into office (I hate to disparage clowns).

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lord_pizzabird t1_j94s4xi wrote

Tbf it has historically been a both sides thing. Republicans often stand in the way or de-regulate, while Democrats have been notorious for just not doing 'the thing' whenever in power.

If we don't stop trying to shy away from the reality that both parties are ruining this country we'll never be able to fix these core problems.

Change is going to require what's known as a realignment election, which is where a major third party emerges, or the parties ideological alignment is redefined.

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DrDankDankDank t1_j94s8i6 wrote

What is “the thing” that they don’t do while in power?

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lord_pizzabird t1_j94to90 wrote

The most famous example that comes up was refusing to codify abortion rights, which they had several opportunities to do across a 50 year window.

It's part of a larger trend where Democrats in power often don't do certain things, especially if popular with little or no explanation given.

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Mp32pingi25 t1_j929mxj wrote

Aaand fixing the infrastructure could and probably will line the pockets of some politicians. I’m mean we should absolutely fix it but there will be closed door deals with that stuff

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DrDankDankDank t1_j92cecu wrote

Same as it ever was. I figure fuck it, if pockets are going to be lined anyways let’s at least line them for getting needed shit done.

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