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BDoooon t1_jao1l3e wrote

Yes he gets a lot of points but when you put him on one of the best lines in hockey of course he's going to to. Since 2019 he's scored 13 goals in 28 games. In his playoff career he is only a +4, Marchand in the same amount of time is a +14. He's a great regular season player but when it comes to post season he's not even close to the same guy.

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professornapoleon t1_jao6y8g wrote

Okay? He also had 18 assists since 2019 so what’s your point? You’re still using +/- to evaluate a players worth in 2023? Lmaoooo

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BDoooon t1_jap2bb8 wrote

The assists and goals are heavily weighted by the line he is on is my point. +/- is a great indicator of him as a player. It proves this because despite the goals and assists he earns the amount of opposing goals he is on the ice for almost completely undo all the goals he has a hand in. This is why +/- is still a valuable stat and proves that in the post season he is not the game changing player he is all season.

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professornapoleon t1_jar3i4w wrote

+/- does not and has not, ever been able to tell the full story of a player bc so many factors are out of their control. It is an antiquated way to evaluate a player. Look at his advanced stats and you’ll see he’s more than capable in playoffs

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