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rosen380 t1_jc6a31l wrote

Reply to comment by OneBar1905 in 21 year old Nicaraguan pitcher Duque Hebbert signed by Detroit Tigers immediately after game in which he struck out a trio of MLB stars. by carnifex2005

Fwiw- career SO rates for each: Soto 16.8% Rodriguez 25.9% Devers 21.0%

From that, we'd expect an average pitcher to strike all three of them out about 0.9% of the time, or about a 1-in-109 chance

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OhPiggly t1_jc6qw30 wrote

That’s when facing pitchers from the MLB that they have tons of stats on. Not surprising that the struggled against a pitcher they have never faced.

Edit: this article title also conveniently leaves out that he gave up a double to one of the easiest players in the MLB to strike out in that same inning.

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enkafan t1_jc6sf9w wrote

And they are also facing others with MLB arms and scouting. I'm confident that when given the choice between "MLB pitcher who I've scouted" vs "unsigned 21 year old dude I have no scouting" every MLB batter is taking the later every single time.

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OhPiggly t1_jc739j7 wrote

I take it you haven’t played baseball at a high level then. It is always easier to hit off of pitchers when you know their tendencies. It’s no accident that the game is completely stat-driven.

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enkafan t1_jc75jcz wrote

Yes, assuming you have two players of equal skill then knowing their tendencies is obviously better.

You are arguing that random unsigned dudes should consistently strike out major league pitchers at a higher rate than guys with professional scouting and arms warranting tens of millions of dollars.

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OhPiggly t1_jc7fytr wrote

When did I make that argument? You are putting words in my mouth. I am just saying that striking out 3 and letting one of the easiest hitters in the MLB to strike out hit a double off of you is not a great indicator of how good you are.

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proto3296 t1_jc7pob7 wrote

He did something absolutely absurd in striking out the 3. Letting up a double can happen. Striking out the three of them in a row tho wouldn’t happen very often and probably won’t either

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DemSumBigAssRidges t1_jc7r6wm wrote

So, a guy with no MLB experience gave up a double to someone with MLB experience, but also struck out three MLB stars (at least one with a World Series ring)? Sounds impressive, honestly.

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OhPiggly t1_jc7th9m wrote

Machado is one of the easiest players in the MLB to strike out.

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psqueetheG t1_jc7vc2b wrote

Yeah, I struck him out twice last week. You’re ludicrous lol.

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DemSumBigAssRidges t1_jc7vq6a wrote

Not sure where you're getting that from except maybe you just don't like him which is understandable. Percentage wise, he struck out more last year than he ever did, and it barely cracked 20% (source: baseball reference). Other than last year, his SO% has been in the teens.

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Brutal007 t1_jc6si7p wrote

Yea this also makes since and is important, there’s surely minimal or no film on him this early in the WBC, but that still shows how good his stuff is. If his stuff wasn’t good it wouldn’t matter if they havnt seen him before

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AUNTY_HAZEL t1_jc80vtm wrote

>But Monday's ninth inning ultimately sold him. Hebbert, who also gave up a double to the hot-hitting Machado in his lone inning of work, used mostly low 90s sinkers, mid-80s changeups and low-90s sliders to strike out three of the best hitters in the world.

👀

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