Did Miller bring them their guns?

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guns are designed to end someone's existence

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Which is exactly why he returned the gun that was left in his possession

If only Jamea Harris could walk around with a security guard

Remember folks, if you are important enough to a rich enterprise, you go from a suspect or accomplice, to a cooperating witness

If someone tells you to bring a gun and you do it... then someone dies from the gun you provided... you should also be held liable.

Alabama is really dropping the ball on this one.

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What if someone tells you to bring them their car then they drive someone over? Just playing devil's advocate but where do you draw the line?

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I think because a gun is used with the intention to shoot people where a car is intended for transportation.

Between cars and guns.

There is definitely a grey area. In your scenario I would say the purpose of the "instrument" matters. A car is typically used for transportation and unless they've indicated what is for the assumption is it will be used that way. A gun has a very limited specific purpose, and someone asking for yours should be a red flag.

This is all about publicity for Miller, and everyone is just spreading the shit everywhere.

If I'm getting death threats, I'm not hiring security so I can be seen at a basketball game. I'm staying home. But, I'm not an idiot. So there's that.

Don’t care!

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There’s nothing you can use a gun for except death, whether it be human, animal, or target their only use is to cause death and destruction.

Question's why tho

>I think because a gun is used with the intention to shoot people

No. The large majority of guns will never be intended to shoot a person in their existence.

Hobby guns are very common.

I would debate that. If you’re buying a gun for self-defense, it’s with the intention to shoot another human being. You may never end up using it for that, but that’s not the same thing. You’re not buying a Glock to shoot deer

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"used with the intention to shoot people" was the line. Buying a gun is not using a gun.

You're trying to be pedantic about it but it doesn't even fit literally.

I’m not the person who said that but the distinction is pretty clear. I’m not saying the kid should be legally liable for someone’s deaths or anything but if you really can’t acknowledge the distinction between a weapon and a vehicle then idk what to tell you

lmfao you could try telling me said relevant distinction

im now confused. Did miller give his own gun to someone else and they used millers gun to kill someone?

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isnt that a crime?

That’s not at all what happened.

Their primary intended purpose? If someone asks me to bring them something of theirs, it’s a fair assumption that they’re planning or considering using that thing. And since he didn’t ask the kid to bring his gun to him at a gun range, it’s not a big jump to realize that there is at least a risk that he’s going to be using it on someone or something. If someone asks me to bring them their car, ignoring the logistical challenges, then I’d assume they intend to use it for transportation. So unless they ask me to bring it to them in front of a bank mid-robbery, I should be able to reasonably say that they probably don’t intent to do anything potentially injurious

>Their primary intended purpose? If someone asks me to bring them something of theirs, it’s a fair assumption that they’re planning or considering using that thing.

Agreed, target practice.

>And since he didn’t ask the kid to bring his gun to him at a gun range

lmao

Target practice is not grounds for an urgent request to bring someone a firearm in the wee hours of the morning. Again, from a legal standpoint, sure he had plausible deniability. But if he thought that they were asking for the gun just for funsies, that’s just willful ignorance

>Target practice is not grounds for an urgent request to bring someone a firearm in the wee hours of the morning.

Says... you? Mr. Almighty urgent request authority lmfao

Thanks for your irrelevant opinion.

Says common sense. They weren’t out in the middle of nowhere, they were in downtown Tuscaloosa. Other than a firing range there is no place in the city where the gun can be lawfully discharged.

Let me guess, common sense is also how you jumped to remaining in the city lmao

“Hey man, bring me my gun. Me and my buddy are gonna walk 5+ miles to outside the city limits at 2 in the morning to find a safe spot for some target practice and then walk back” really seems something that seems plausible?

lol "yes" would've been shorter

Maybe sense isn’t as common among people as I thought

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Future grizzlies draft pick - will fit with gun culture ja moron

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>Did miller give his own gun to someone else and they used millers gun to kill someone?

No

im confused what happened then

Here's the full timeline: https://patch.com/alabama/tuscaloosa/new-evidence-provides-compelling-account-bama-hoops-murder-case

A group of them went to a bar/club. The place didn't allow guns inside or had a metal detector so the owner of the gun left it in the car. Miller was the DD, and he didn't want to wait a long time in line to get in, so he left and went to a nearby restaurant. Later that night, Miles sent multiple texts to Miller that they were ready to leave and if he could come pick them up. While on the way to pick them up, Miller gets a text from Miles asking if he could bring the guy's gun because things were getting a little feisty (this was right before Miller got to the location and Miller never responded to the text, so we don't even know if he saw it before he arrived). Miller really had nothing to do with anything outside of drive the car to pick them up. The guy just happened to leave his gun in the back seat of Miller's car. Miles also had very little to do with it, and was seen on camera trying to calm the situation down several times.

Thanks for the rundown

That makes a lot of sense then that miller is playing and not in jail or something.

Hell it would have been bad if he had tried to keep the gun not returning it

And his goal wasn't even to return the gun. He was just going to pick them up because he was their ride. Just sucks that the Jeep with the victim and her boyfriend (who had a gun and potentially fired first) pulled up beside them right after Miller arrived.