ShadyCrow t1_jchrgt2 wrote
Arizona didn't score in the last 4:43 of the game. They played lazy, arrogant and stupid throughout. Their talent still almost won out, but props to Princeton's defensive gameplan and effort.
There's real reasons we see big upsets more often now: there's talent, size and athleticism everywhere, the whole world is getting recruited better, and it's hard to give the most effort all the time. It's hard to compare the passion future NBA guys have for this tournament to what future car salesman do. I'm not saying they don't care or that they all don't try, but there's no way to remove the mindset of the future.
BjornBeetleBorg t1_jchxj5q wrote
Princeton isn't producing car salespeople lol. maybe their dads own dealerships though
guesting t1_jci1tm5 wrote
The small schools have an experience advantage usually over the 1 and done pools which ends up mattering late in big games
chumbiebeeb t1_jci929l wrote
I see your point but u of a doesn’t have a true one and done currently on the roster.
guesting t1_jcib1oc wrote
Yeah I was speaking generally too that these teams seem to be choking at higher and higher rates. 50 year storm every 2 years now
philkid3 t1_jcj3uwx wrote
This is sometimes true, but Princeton is actually the LEAST experienced team in the field this year.
BjornBeetleBorg t1_jci2dg2 wrote
Im witchu. I didn't even mention that tho lol
ShadyCrow t1_jchxy27 wrote
Haha indeed, I was meaning small-school guys in general, but yes with Princeton it's future hedge-fund guys more likely.
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00000000000 t1_jck1b3f wrote
Eh I know ivys don’t have athletic scholarships but they gets other scholarships. My cousin played at Yale and absolutely struggled to pay.
ladyrockess t1_jcil33w wrote
I’m dying - tell me this is A Cinderella Story reference 😂
2WhomAreYouListening t1_jchrncn wrote
4:43?! Damn…
ShadyCrow t1_jchsda7 wrote
It gets worse: Ramey made a jumper with 11 minutes left to give them 49.
They finished with 55.
2WhomAreYouListening t1_jchsj4g wrote
No team in the NCAA can play up to the best teams and down to the worst teams, quite like Arizona.
FruitSnackEater t1_jchxx34 wrote
I think some of these guys at these P5 schools look down on some of the non-P5 schools and think the game is going to be easy somehow. And that’s how some of these upsets happen.
ShadyCrow t1_jchyh0r wrote
You're definitely right. As is pointed out often, the top schools are getting younger and the lower seeds are getting older.
And it's not like this is a super-recent problem, but so many of these players are sheltered and not challenged as soon as they get the right attention -- they play AAU on a team with D1 guys against teams of NAIA guys and they don't realize how good every D1 player is.
The margins are so small at the highest levels. The only reason a lot of the small-school guys aren't at a bigger place can just be a few inches of height or a few notches of athleticism. It might keep them out of the pros but they can beat you in any random game.
LiberalAspergers t1_jci3gtk wrote
And, if you are smart enough to KNOW you are a little too short or too slow for the NBA, a Princeton education can take you a lot farther in life than a Arizona degree. They know how to recruit the players who get that.
Downtown_Skill t1_jcjahbo wrote
My high school coach used to say this. We were a team who had 8 players go to NAIA schools, D3 or played for a community college including myself (although I'm far from D1 talent). My coach used to tell us, for encouragement, the difference between a D3 player and a D1 player is usually 3 or 4 inches for every position. The skill is still the same.
Maybe it's not entirely true but there is some truth to it. There's also usually a big difference in athleticism but he didn't mention that haha.
jack_spankin t1_jcjphy3 wrote
It’s absolutely true. I spent years in higher education from BIG10 and Big12 down to naia. Of those 1/2 were spent in athletics focused residential halls.
But there is also huge small school bias or bias against states not known for producing high level talent at that sport.
But your point is spot on. Coaches are often obsessed with height. Hell you’ll see absolute trash players get recruited with zero skill because they hover at near 7’
munchies777 t1_jck439k wrote
Probably because they have a bias towards their own coaching abilities. They think they can teach skill, but obviously no one can teach height.
littlesymphonicdispl t1_jcledi6 wrote
Guy i played high school football with got recruited by Pitt to play LT, because in high school he was 6'6 and 300lbs or so.
He was also absolute dogshit and never played in college. I was a backup linebacker and during our practices I'd line up at Defensive End against him specifically because I knew it'd increase my chances of playing, because I'd burn him off the snap every. Single. Play.
You can't coach size, so coaches go nuts for it, but having size doesn't mean they'll ever be able to coach you into becoming a decent player
LiberalAspergers t1_jci3hd0 wrote
And, if you are smart enough to KNOW you are a little too short or too slow for the NBA, a Princeton education can take you a lot farther in life than a Arizona degree. They know how to recruit the players who get that.
azpm t1_jck45fv wrote
I've never seen a player play so well and so poorly AT THE SAME TIME as Tubelis. Dude misses so many layups.
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