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mlorusso4 t1_jdwsquf wrote

Never had a legit pass catcher? I guess mark Andrew’s doesn’t exist then. The offense the ravens ran never needed a superstar wr1. Their offense was a modified wing t with modern concepts worked in like a speed guy to open up the top. Yes, of course a premier wr would have been great, but it wasn’t required.

And when Lamar said he wasn’t happy with the receivers he was given, they went out and drafted Bateman in the first round. You’re not going to get an instant superstar that late in the 1st round, which is where the ravens always draft because they’re usually successful. They drafted back to back TE, one of which is pretty much a wr who’s above average at inside blocking.

And you say mobile qbs don’t get hurt more than pocket passers. Sure that may be true overall, I’m not going to fact check you. But Lamar specifically is injury prone. He’s undersized and taking significantly more hits than a pocket passer. And you see that proof by the fact that he has only played a full 16/17 game season once in his 5 years in the league. 2018: didn’t start until week 7. 2019: ok he technically didn’t play every game, but week 17 was a coaches decision for rest so we won’t count that. 2020: Covid year so he missed some games with illness but was knocked out of the playoff game with a concussion. 2021: knocked out week 14 and rest of season with an ankle injury. 2022: knocked out week 13 and missed the rest of the season with his knee injury. So all in all the most games he’s ever played in a season is 15


capswin t1_jdxmivu wrote

Not to mention doing a backflip into the end zone and injuring himself. Plus, who gets Covid 4 times?


Count_Joshoo t1_jdx74os wrote

Andrews was a very good redzone target and a mediocre one everywhere else. And saying "they tried" doesn't and shouldn't matter to Lamar. The one that could play a tiny bit the dumped for nothing, and he was Lamar's best friend on the team. I don't think the Ravens have ever successfully drafted a WR.

The offense argument is also moot. That offense was designed to utilize his skills while he learned to be a pro style passer. IMHO he is perfectly capable of doing that now and deserves the weapons to throw too.

The money to build a team argument is also moot. They had his entire rookie deal to build a SB team and failed completely. Why should he trust that front office?

The injury point does have it's validity. I would argue that he quite likely could have played last year, but with his contact hanging over things I totally get why he choose to not play. The size issue is silly. He's almost the same size as Hurts. The Ravens also don't seem to like paying for pass protection. Again, why should he trust a front office that is still cashing in on it's old reputation?

As for the Watson comp, sure he played more games in his 3 years pre suspension than Lamar's last three, but.....Lamar won more games in that time with arguably lesser talent around him.

The anti-Lamar contingency is boarderline insane. He's a top ten QB with top 3 upside, he's a singular talent and a joy to watch.