TheOneWithNoName t1_ir3hpmy wrote on October 5, 2022 at 1:34 AM

Reply to comment by jl_theprofessor in WSJ: Chess Investigation Finds That U.S. Grandmaster ‘Likely Cheated’ More Than 100 Times by neighborhood-chad

Magnus still may not be justified. He accused Hans of cheating in live over-the-board matches and has provided exactly 0 proof of this. This article is only about his online history, though it is pretty damning to Hans reputation either way.

jimdotcom413 t1_ir3swdw wrote on October 5, 2022 at 3:04 AM

Did he not resign out of protest in that match because he knows what a cheater Hans is and refused to play against him? There was one move in that match so it’s not like you could accuse the person of cheating in that match alone.

TheOneWithNoName t1_ir3tep2 wrote on October 5, 2022 at 3:09 AM

Magnus had played against Hans several times before with knowledge that he was an online cheater, but only refused to play him after losing a match. He quit that match after one move because he was suspicious of their previous games.

politickinninja t1_ir47nuz wrote on October 5, 2022 at 5:33 AM

You're thinking of the second game(online), after Magnus got his ass whooped in the first(OTB).

Hans cheated online and probably shouldn't be allowed in online tournaments but there is 0 evidence of him cheating OTB.

elpajaroquemamais t1_ir4xplc wrote on October 5, 2022 at 11:26 AM

He didn’t quit because he was cheating in that particular game. He quit after a move. He quit because he didn’t want to be beat by someone who could be cheating.

Morkins324 t1_ir62gcp wrote on October 5, 2022 at 4:32 PM

I feel like Magnus is reasonably justified regardless. He might not have actual proof of Hans cheating OTB, but he probably was reasonably aware of the repeated cheating online. And then he played a game against Hans OTB where Hans made some strange moves that seem more like engine moves rather than human moves(given Hans rating). I feel like that was enough to create a situation where Magnus is reasonably justified in pulling out of that tournament. Even if he can't prove what happened in the OTB game and even if Hans wasn't actually cheating in the OTB game, I don't blame Magnus for not wanting to play against Hans. He is already suspicious of Hans going into the match given the online history, and then had a weird match OTB...