Viewing a single comment thread. View all comments

Momentosis t1_ir3zgfm wrote

Reply to comment by william-o in WSJ: Chess Investigation Finds That U.S. Grandmaster ‘Likely Cheated’ More Than 100 Times by neighborhood-chad

From what I've read, just knowing that there are critical moves at play greatly affects the flow of games.

So they have someone/a team of people watching the game and when there are certain moves available to push the game in the player's favor, they get a cue. Either someone gives them a signal somewhere in the audience or through other means(like an anal vibrator).

42

Sick_Breh t1_ir5f8mk wrote

So like the astros banging a trash can to signal which pitch is thrown

10

DragoonXNucleon t1_ir5ho1c wrote

Classical games can last between 1 and 5 hours. Players will often "have a think" where they go and ruminate on a single move for 15 minutes because they have to calculate the move and all possibilities after it, which can include hundreds of resulting combinations.

During this time they often leave the board, walk, pace, smoke. They have to do it in approved areas without speaking to anyone, but 15m is a longtime to send a signal.

1

Sick_Breh t1_ir5idye wrote

Damn lol, that is quite the amount of time. I’ve never gotten into chess so this shows some light.

1

BrappZanniganAgain t1_ir502ka wrote

Is it like a team of people is better at coming up with the next move as opposed to one person who is competing? I just don’t understand why if there’s someone who knows enough that they can feed him plays why doesn’t that person just play and win without cheating?

1

shryke12 t1_ir52a2v wrote

Generally you have the board set up and see what move a top AI would do on your turn. Top AIs are unbeatable at chess because they play perfect.

9

william-o t1_ir524v3 wrote

Cheaters are pathological liars who are willing to destroy the validity of the sport they claim to love, for their own personal benefit. you really don't need to justify it beyond that

4

cowking81 t1_ir52dn7 wrote

That team is playing along using a top level computer to generate the best next move. If there is a really good move that’s not obvious they alert the player and the player will look deeper. For a skilled player, this is a huge edge as it allows them to look past the obvious ok or good move for the hidden great one

3

neighborhood-chad OP t1_ir5caax wrote

Cheaters in chess use a chess engine - essentially AI bots for chess, and the best engines are well clear of the best players on the planet easily capable of beating them 100/100 times. So someone is probably running the game through a computer and relaying the best computer moves to hans, if he’s cheating on the board that is.

2