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D_Simmons t1_irtofse wrote

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seanflyon t1_irtvvpm wrote

The war is Putin's responsibility, and it is also the responsibility of the Russian people.

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ZiOnIsNeXtLeBrOn t1_iru1ezo wrote

Well when you live in a Communist country, where you can literally be killed for saying a single thing negative about Putin. Putin killed Billionaires who were his Allies. He can and will kill regular people. There are brave men, women and children who protested against him. And that is all they can do.

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randomguy_- t1_iru1pjf wrote

Putin and Russia aren’t communist by any stretch

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Dyhart t1_irv3sgi wrote

Authoritarian, not communist

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optimistic_agnostic t1_irvfh4f wrote

They're getting killed by the thousands in Ukraine. Why choose to die killing civilians in a foreign land than fighting for yourself and your family? The populace is complicit.

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optimistic_agnostic t1_irvfbjk wrote

The Russian people are the ones holding the rifles and firing the missiles. It's not just putin.

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beedlejooce t1_irw9p07 wrote

To be fair they don’t exactly have a choice. Civilians are forcibly dragged off the streets. Your entire family’s name is basically ostracized from societal ability to succeed in Russia if you refuse to serve. And then 10 years of hard labor in prison at the very least.

There’s a very small percentage of Russians serving that actually want to be there. You have people burning themselves alive, shooting themselves in non lethal spots, and purposely breaking their bones in hopes of getting medical exemption. This is basically all Putin and the other Kremlin blindly stroking their master’s ego.

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optimistic_agnostic t1_irxhhd4 wrote

Or they could turn their weapons on these 'oppressors' and chose to fight for their country, family and livelihood rather than die in a foreign land killing civilians and waging a war of annexation and the expansion of the Russian federation. Yet they chose the later. It's not just putin, it's the populace that is complicit, don't kid yourself or expect us to be that naive.

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beedlejooce t1_irxjsn4 wrote

Well of course them standing up to the oligarchs would be the ideal solution. Ain’t that easy. It’ll take at least the next two generations of younger people to switch the ideology of supporting free elections in Russia. Once the older people in general, but especially the ones in power die off there’s a chance at least of revolution. Most of these Russian soldiers do not want to be there. Of course there’s always zealous extremists but most are done with it.

Russian people have been fed this propaganda narrative their whole life just to be lied to as a pawn. But in reality the US did the same thing to our troops in the Middle East, sending soldiers to die for a mission they knew would fail long term. It was never gonna work. All the war crimes too so.

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