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ColgateSensifoam t1_isbtn06 wrote

Reply to comment by Smitty_The_One in Dame Kelly Holmes opens up on her mental health issues - and calls for government to do more by zarabarrus

So you don't consider public health something that the government should have a hand in? Despite it being one of the largest contributors to GDP?

We've shown time and time again that privatisation leads to more loss than nationalisation.

I'm in favour of more regulation, including regulatory oversight of government to prevent the corruption that you have such an issue with

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Smitty_The_One t1_isbz8r1 wrote

The problem is more inefficiency and idiocy than it is corruption. Laws don’t make the government understand business or industry or do things in an efficient manner. They paid $300 million to design a fucking website (healthcare.gov) which was buggy and didn’t do what it was supposed to do for most of the first year it was live. If that contract had gone to someone with actual experience building such a website, that cost would’ve been much lower and the functionality would’ve been much better. It’s still a shitshow that functions on the level of Geocities. Apply that efficiency and expertise to any problem, and that’s what you’re getting with the government handling it.

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ColgateSensifoam t1_isc15zb wrote

Again, you're targeting corruption and labelling it as inefficiency.

Who built that website?

Who owns that company?

Who selected them as the website builders?

Who got kickbacks?

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Smitty_The_One t1_isc3uvy wrote

What law is going to stop the decision maker from giving a high dollar contract to his unqualified buddy? He’s the decision maker for a reason. The buddy doesn’t have to pay him directly as a kickback, they can offer benefits or disguise shit thru shell corporations etc. Adding more people to the government payroll isn’t going to stop that… replacing the current ones with competent/honorable people might, but good fucking luck with that. The only option is to make it so the only things the government is involved in are things that they MUST be involved in, leave the other shit to the market to handle. It will. If someone is gouging people for a service then someone else will come along and undercut them to get the business. That model works a lot better than the government stealing a bunch of money from its citizens and then blindly shelling it out to buddies of the decision makers. PPP loans are no different if you want a more recent example. We could form committees to make these kinds of decisions but look at the Supreme Court… the most “honorable” group in the land is a fucking shit show. Government is not the answer here.

Nobody has shown “time and again” that privatization leads to more issues by the way… that statement is false. Show me 3 examples where the government handled something better than a private company could. I literally don’t think you can find one example in the US.

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AdequateSteakAlister t1_isetc3a wrote

Do yer own ressrrch... You can't find "the Market works" for the many literally anywhere. Nursing homes, jails, hospitals all killed people more when privatized. There's your three. Got any more brilliance or are you just sporting angry. Probably just a bot really. Russians love to get the world fighting. Look at his history. Def a bot.

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ColgateSensifoam t1_isc4x1u wrote

Anticorruption and proper procurement laws?

Again, your issues are with the system your country uses, and the corruption that leads to

Democratically elected individuals, rather than parties, are a much better way of handling things. Likewise, having public officials records open to public scrutiny has a huge part in preventing these backroom deals from happening

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Smitty_The_One t1_isc5crz wrote

Whose gonna pass the anti corruption laws by the way? The corrupt congress we have who are lining their pockets with the current system? We can’t even pass term limits for these idiots… if you think they’re going to vote against their personal best interests then you’re wrong. If you’re not speaking about the USA in this argument then it’s probably apples to oranges.

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