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Gummy1224 t1_itakypt wrote

Man, dealing with cheating is a really interesting discussion which deal with philosophy and crime and punishment. Which always gets derailed when some dickhead goes ‘ban em for life, cheaters are rotten dogs’

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Percehh t1_itanqm6 wrote

If we did ban the cheater rotten dogs for life then we have a deterance for other would be cheaters and retribution for those who were competing at a disadvantage.

Now I don't think we should ban all cheating rotten dogs for life, mostly because I think it would be counter productive to catching cheaters but I do think they should be maimed or at least flogged a bit.

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CryptoMemesLOL t1_itapmoi wrote

The problem is if you ban one for life while a bunch more are roaming the streets, it can backfire big time. If you sanction them all, then it is not better as far as how it looks for the organization.

Ask Cycling how it went.

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JohnHwagi t1_itarbdq wrote

Perhaps not for life, but sports punishments for cheating are absurd. Tatis lost less than 1% ($2.9/340M) of his future earnings for his cheating scandal. I’d rather leagues stop testing at all, versus only catching a small proportion of the offenders at random and the flipping a coin to decide on a punishment.

Unless you’re going to save urine samples and back-test them 5+ years in the future, anti doping orgs cannot effectively detect most newer compounds being used for doping.

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evocon15 t1_itawome wrote

They do this. Olympic sales are saved for ten years.

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JohnHwagi t1_itaxg9l wrote

I hate the Yankees, but I don’t want to find out in 10 years Aaron Judge got caught cheating this year lol

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evouga t1_itb27s9 wrote

To have any teeth as a deterrent, penalties for cheating need to be at least severe enough that it’s negative-EV to cheat. That’s difficult given how hard it is to detect cheating in many sports.

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Bladestorm04 t1_itcjb1x wrote

That's like 90% of the conversation right now if you're familiar with the Hans Niemann chess chesting controversy going in atm.

So illogical when the same people don't hold other people to the same standard

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