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Gummy1224 t1_itakypt wrote

Man, dealing with cheating is a really interesting discussion which deal with philosophy and crime and punishment. Which always gets derailed when some dickhead goes ‘ban em for life, cheaters are rotten dogs’

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Percehh t1_itanqm6 wrote

If we did ban the cheater rotten dogs for life then we have a deterance for other would be cheaters and retribution for those who were competing at a disadvantage.

Now I don't think we should ban all cheating rotten dogs for life, mostly because I think it would be counter productive to catching cheaters but I do think they should be maimed or at least flogged a bit.

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CryptoMemesLOL t1_itapmoi wrote

The problem is if you ban one for life while a bunch more are roaming the streets, it can backfire big time. If you sanction them all, then it is not better as far as how it looks for the organization.

Ask Cycling how it went.

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JohnHwagi t1_itarbdq wrote

Perhaps not for life, but sports punishments for cheating are absurd. Tatis lost less than 1% ($2.9/340M) of his future earnings for his cheating scandal. I’d rather leagues stop testing at all, versus only catching a small proportion of the offenders at random and the flipping a coin to decide on a punishment.

Unless you’re going to save urine samples and back-test them 5+ years in the future, anti doping orgs cannot effectively detect most newer compounds being used for doping.

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evocon15 t1_itawome wrote

They do this. Olympic sales are saved for ten years.

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JohnHwagi t1_itaxg9l wrote

I hate the Yankees, but I don’t want to find out in 10 years Aaron Judge got caught cheating this year lol

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evouga t1_itb27s9 wrote

To have any teeth as a deterrent, penalties for cheating need to be at least severe enough that it’s negative-EV to cheat. That’s difficult given how hard it is to detect cheating in many sports.

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Bladestorm04 t1_itcjb1x wrote

That's like 90% of the conversation right now if you're familiar with the Hans Niemann chess chesting controversy going in atm.

So illogical when the same people don't hold other people to the same standard

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easyhigh t1_itai5d3 wrote

She is getting sharapova’d

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Cayderent t1_itb58dx wrote

At least Sharapova admitted that she had used the banned substance all along and didn’t realize (her fault) that it became banned on January 1 of that year. So basically right after the new year she immediately failed. But there was never an attempt to obfuscate.

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easyhigh t1_itj252l wrote

Yes, she tried to be fully transparent probably thinking it will help her not get completely screwed out of her tennis career. Didn’t help. Let’s see how it will work with Simona.

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Agile_Rock t1_itbhbzo wrote

Haha she said, "I will fight until the end to prove I never knowingly took any prohibited substances". Someone slipped some prohibited substances in her morning bagel before gameday. She is so full of shit.

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Vocals16527 t1_ithhmkk wrote

What is considered “dope” in this situation?

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[deleted] t1_itaaev8 wrote

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GatorMcqueen t1_itaq8ot wrote

I mean that seems harsh, she got caught but just about all of them are on something, zero chance Serena was natural for all of her career

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JohnHwagi t1_itaqtxa wrote

I’d assume many athletes cheat because there is such an incentive, but getting caught cheating is the inherent risk to cheating, and she doesn’t get a pass for being dumber than others.

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GatorMcqueen t1_itard88 wrote

I guess it depends how you look at it. Serena hid in her closet when a tester came to her house. You can give her credit for that I suppose

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malankav3 t1_itag221 wrote

Why are you getting downvoted ?

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Shingaion t1_itaob76 wrote

No idea. Doesn't change the fact that she's a dirty disgusting sports cheat!

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austinvf82 t1_itai3td wrote

So, there really is equality.......🤣 shut the fuck up nobody cares

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jvpewster t1_itaocp9 wrote

Romania was communist, but was always uniquely integrated with the western bloc. It was an independent member of UN in the 50s and aligned more closely with China following the sino Soviet split.

For most of Simona’s life Romania has been a part of NATO and about half of it they’ve been full on members of the EU

This comment being upvoted as dumber then connecting Lance Armstrong and Mark McQuire in a narrative to say Americans are predisposed to cheating.

Athletes seek competitive advantages sometimes. She got caught, and unless there’s evidence of a state conspiracy I don’t see how it’s related to the systematic doping in Russia.

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vladthetransilvanian t1_itav8hn wrote

Romania wasn't soviet

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nohcho84 t1_itba06q wrote

It absolutely was in the Warsaw pact hence heavily controlled by ussr

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vladthetransilvanian t1_itb0tvn wrote

Point is, we were never a soviet state and Dej even start a "de-Stalinization" process the second mustache man kicked the bucket. Not to mention Ceaușescu taking measures against a potential Soviet invasion after the Czechoslovakia invasion(the Transfăgărășan highway)

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jvpewster t1_itbsge4 wrote

Lol a single lab with vague connections to an even more vague “external entity” is not icarus. Belco labs in Florida had political connections but no one called for George H’s culpability because that’d be moronic.

You can reach all you want to try and make that comment look better but on so many levels it was dumb.

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