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austinvf82 t1_itai3td wrote

So, there really is equality.......🤣 shut the fuck up nobody cares

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easyhigh t1_itai5d3 wrote

She is getting sharapova’d

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Gummy1224 t1_itakypt wrote

Man, dealing with cheating is a really interesting discussion which deal with philosophy and crime and punishment. Which always gets derailed when some dickhead goes ‘ban em for life, cheaters are rotten dogs’

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Percehh t1_itanqm6 wrote

Replying to Gummy1224 (#174,861)

If we did ban the cheater rotten dogs for life then we have a deterance for other would be cheaters and retribution for those who were competing at a disadvantage.

Now I don't think we should ban all cheating rotten dogs for life, mostly because I think it would be counter productive to catching cheaters but I do think they should be maimed or at least flogged a bit.

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jvpewster t1_itaocp9 wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#174,430)

Romania was communist, but was always uniquely integrated with the western bloc. It was an independent member of UN in the 50s and aligned more closely with China following the sino Soviet split.

For most of Simona’s life Romania has been a part of NATO and about half of it they’ve been full on members of the EU

This comment being upvoted as dumber then connecting Lance Armstrong and Mark McQuire in a narrative to say Americans are predisposed to cheating.

Athletes seek competitive advantages sometimes. She got caught, and unless there’s evidence of a state conspiracy I don’t see how it’s related to the systematic doping in Russia.

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CryptoMemesLOL t1_itapmoi wrote

Replying to Percehh (#175,069)

The problem is if you ban one for life while a bunch more are roaming the streets, it can backfire big time. If you sanction them all, then it is not better as far as how it looks for the organization.

Ask Cycling how it went.

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JohnHwagi t1_itaqtxa wrote

Replying to GatorMcqueen (#175,194)

I’d assume many athletes cheat because there is such an incentive, but getting caught cheating is the inherent risk to cheating, and she doesn’t get a pass for being dumber than others.

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JohnHwagi t1_itarbdq wrote

Replying to Gummy1224 (#174,861)

Perhaps not for life, but sports punishments for cheating are absurd. Tatis lost less than 1% ($2.9/340M) of his future earnings for his cheating scandal. I’d rather leagues stop testing at all, versus only catching a small proportion of the offenders at random and the flipping a coin to decide on a punishment.

Unless you’re going to save urine samples and back-test them 5+ years in the future, anti doping orgs cannot effectively detect most newer compounds being used for doping.

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vladthetransilvanian t1_itb0tvn wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#175,567)

Point is, we were never a soviet state and Dej even start a "de-Stalinization" process the second mustache man kicked the bucket. Not to mention Ceaușescu taking measures against a potential Soviet invasion after the Czechoslovakia invasion(the Transfăgărășan highway)

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evouga t1_itb27s9 wrote

Replying to Gummy1224 (#174,861)

To have any teeth as a deterrent, penalties for cheating need to be at least severe enough that it’s negative-EV to cheat. That’s difficult given how hard it is to detect cheating in many sports.

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Cayderent t1_itb58dx wrote

Replying to easyhigh (#174,636)

At least Sharapova admitted that she had used the banned substance all along and didn’t realize (her fault) that it became banned on January 1 of that year. So basically right after the new year she immediately failed. But there was never an attempt to obfuscate.

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Agile_Rock t1_itbhbzo wrote

Haha she said, "I will fight until the end to prove I never knowingly took any prohibited substances". Someone slipped some prohibited substances in her morning bagel before gameday. She is so full of shit.

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jvpewster t1_itbsge4 wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#175,328)

Lol a single lab with vague connections to an even more vague “external entity” is not icarus. Belco labs in Florida had political connections but no one called for George H’s culpability because that’d be moronic.

You can reach all you want to try and make that comment look better but on so many levels it was dumb.

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Bladestorm04 t1_itcjb1x wrote

Replying to Gummy1224 (#174,861)

That's like 90% of the conversation right now if you're familiar with the Hans Niemann chess chesting controversy going in atm.

So illogical when the same people don't hold other people to the same standard

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Vocals16527 t1_ithhmkk wrote

What is considered “dope” in this situation?

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easyhigh t1_itj252l wrote

Replying to Cayderent (#175,975)

Yes, she tried to be fully transparent probably thinking it will help her not get completely screwed out of her tennis career. Didn’t help. Let’s see how it will work with Simona.

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