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[deleted] t1_ittmwsm wrote

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dukeofmadnessmotors t1_itto1rw wrote

Dude, they tried to overturn the election with a mob. That's not conservative in any way. Yet conservatives still support the Republican party. So tell me again about the value of conservatism.

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BOYMAN7 t1_ituh9x0 wrote

I'm not a conservative myself and I'm not American but you can't say conservatism is illegitimate just because of some stupid individuals

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Strolltheroll t1_itu3i8n wrote

January 6th was a coup by definition. Anybody who still supports the regressive beliefs of the Republican Party is anti-American and anti-democratic.

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vancityvic t1_itu6dmi wrote

They have no policies to make America better. They just attack but have no plans how to improve things. They want to tank every thing and then privatize it for corporate ownership

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BOYMAN7 t1_ituh2am wrote

You are right but just wanted to tell you that the Democrats are just as bad. If you understand American history and what USA truly is today you can get a better understanding. My point is that both parties are sides of the same coin

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RobbStark t1_itundeh wrote

Strong disagree. Democrats still believe in the rule of law, the democratic process, and haven't tried to overthrow the federal government.

They also have no problem kicking people out of power that have broken laws or even just violated accepted standards of behavior.

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BOYMAN7 t1_ituokgk wrote

That's obviously because they want votes. If I were to run a political party I wouldn't say stupid things. I would be diplomatic.

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Strolltheroll t1_iturnuh wrote

A political party should be doing positive things to get my vote. If they stop doing things that I like, they do not get my vote. That’s kinda the great thing about democracy.

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Strolltheroll t1_ituj70r wrote

This isn’t the rhetorical slam dunk you think it is, but go on.

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BOYMAN7 t1_itukcz3 wrote

Well, I knew I would get this response telling Americans USA sucks so it wasn't really intended to be a slam dunk.

If you have done a lot of research on the constitution and political affairs of USA, and you think I'm wrong that's fine. But if you haven't read any books or read online I think it's unfair of you to dismiss the possibility. Kanye said Bush doesn't care about black people, I think the USA doesn't care about its citizens. In the EU they protect the people a lot more extensively.

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Strolltheroll t1_iturbkn wrote

Lmao, I have one of the best public educations in the country, a degree in English with a literature concentration, and am currently in law school. My knowledge of American political history is pretty deep and intimate.

I agree that many US elites do not care about the proletariat. The Republican Party is overwhelmingly trying to strip freedom from citizens. The policies of the democrats are more in favor of those who labour so I vote in that interest.

If you knew about american you’d know it’s pointless to judge either one on their past. The Republican Party hasn’t been progressive since Roosevelt, and the democrats lost their conservatives following the voting rights act. It’s much more imperative to vote on policy, of which the Republican Party really has none.

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Renfah87 t1_itujyko wrote

The whole entire Republican ethos is to oppose whatever the left proposes. The fuck?

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