Submitted by MSteele1967 t3_yk8bbi in sports
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danxmanly t1_iusijr6 wrote
I actually feel sorry for their fans... And I'm a Cowboys fan. Miss the ol rivalries between to two teams when both were better respected.
ringthree t1_iuso6bj wrote
I 100% agree.
Also, I hate you and Fox Sports Cowboy loving bias.
But you are also 100% agree, Washington has sucked for so long, I don't even look forward to the rival game anymore.
arlmwl t1_iutz10l wrote
When I moved to DC in the 1980’s everyone talked about the Redskins everywhere. People at the grocery store would talk to each other about the games. You’d see Redskins flags everywhere, and there was always chatter at work about the team. The news was always fun to read articles about the team, and it was a massive, shared cultural experience.
Snyder has squandered all of that since he bought the team. Entire generations of kids have grown up thinking the Redskins are losers and either don’t care about football at all, or root for some other team. Hardly anyone talks about the team at work, amongst friends, or in bars. Most people I know who have gone to games in the last 10 years go to support the other team.
I’ve never seen such destruction of goodwill and a tearing down of a cultural icon in such a short period of time. But here we are.
I hope they sell and leave town.
WishboneDense t1_iuu4mmc wrote
Welcome to buffalo oh wait we’re actually a contender this year.
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arlmwl t1_iutzo0b wrote
When I moved to DC in the 1980’s everyone talked about the Redskins everywhere. People at the grocery store would talk to each other about the games. You’d see Redskins flags everywhere, and there was always chatter at work about the team. The news always had fun to read articles about the team, and it was a massive, shared cultural experience.
Snyder has squandered all of that since he bought the team. Entire generations of kids have grown up thinking the Redskins are losers and either don’t care about football at all, or root for some other team. Hardly anyone talks about the team at work, amongst friends, or in bars. Most people I know who have gone to games in the last 10 years go to support the other team.
I’ve never seen such destruction of goodwill and a tearing down of a cultural icon in such a short period of time. But here we are.
I hope they sell and leave town.
danxmanly t1_iuu0ihv wrote
I vote for both the team AND the town to leave the planet. We'll, maybe that's a bit harsh... The players and coaches can stay and start anew.
danxmanly t1_iut0tbb wrote
Hey... I even get sick of all the bias.. It's like they have the Cowboys as Super Bowl contenders every year.. I mean cmon.. Let's go deep into the playoffs a few times first.
Agreeable-Shower-909 t1_iutjnlo wrote
Two things are certain in life:
The Cowboys as Super Bowl contenders in the preseason
Notre dame ranked insanely high/“this is our year” in the preseason
-heathcliffe- t1_iuu7vac wrote
Add this: Penn state always seeming creepy. Sorry but after the whole thing, i cant shake happy valley from being gross.
danxmanly t1_iutzuw5 wrote
Nailed it!
4904burchfield t1_iuu20xd wrote
I believe the the #1 is the lions are out of the play offs 2023
ClownPuncherrr t1_iuuf4n2 wrote
The only reason is because of the size of the fan base. The Cowboys are never “poised for a deep playoff run.” I used to love to hate them. But they have been bad for so long it’s not even sporting anymore. How I sport in g is it? It would be like waiting for a three legged dog to get up off the ice only to hit it with a stick and wait for it to try to get up again. It’s that UNSPORTING. But, good luck cowboys, I hope you and the raiders finally do something.
Also: the dez Bryant playoff game was a catch.
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Upbeat-Holiday-7858 t1_iuteflc wrote
As a bears fan I feel your pain
Jbales901 t1_iuvo0ie wrote
Laughing in Detroit
Pavona t1_iutqbh6 wrote
Skip Bayless is a scourge.
KlumsyNinja42 t1_iuu8kwl wrote
It’s always better when you respect your rival. Looking back I miss the Jim Harbaugh days.
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organikbeaver t1_iuthb8e wrote
And treated cheerleaders like prostitutes.
GlassEyeMV t1_iuto9jy wrote
I absolutely despise the McCaskey family as a Bears fan.
That said, I’ve met a handful of NFL owners thanks to my job - Dan is definitely absolutely the worst. Goodell is a major asshole too, but Snyder is definitely the worst pro sports owner in the country.
chefhj t1_iuupg6b wrote
As a fellow bears fan fuck the McCaskeys
ringthree t1_iuslzef wrote
When he took over, Washington was in the top three of most valuable sports franchises in the world.
What a horrible human. The worst timeline all started the day Snyder bought the team. I mega-loathe him.
KindlyDevelopment339 t1_iuuslqd wrote
I live in VA and know some rich folks who knew of Snyder’s dealings. One story stuck out: there is a $10,000 fine for cutting down a certain tree in protected areas and he spent like $5M cutting a bunch down so he could have a better view of the Chesapeake Bay watershed
fullmetalasian t1_iutw93b wrote
So apparently the feds are investigating the Commanders finances but I'm sure that has nothing to do with their sudden intrest in selling.
YorockPaperScissors t1_iuumum9 wrote
Excellent point - an impending indictment might be his motivation to sell rather than his fellow owners (who hate him).
Jajineo t1_iutf097 wrote
Martha Ford gives him a run for his money
SmarterThanMyBoss t1_iutsxhn wrote
This is truly a sad day. Soon the Commies might be a competent, well-run organization thay competes for championships and doesn't give me a reason to laugh or gawk at the slow motion train crash.
terripin007 t1_iutpxm1 wrote
he is the worst
Coreybib t1_iuui3om wrote
Agreed. There are a lot of selfish shitty owners. but Snyder takes the cake.
skygiant135 t1_iuvfiim wrote
What the hell is that first article dear god how desperate are you for money
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rmr236 t1_iut8fzq wrote
Bob Nutting may have him beat on “worst owner on North American professional sports”.
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hawkeye126 t1_iuuwqr2 wrote
I don’t follow the sport too closely, why is he the worst?
YorockPaperScissors t1_iuuyb0p wrote
click on the 5 links I provided in my various comments on this post for just a a few examples
hawkeye126 t1_iuv4vp7 wrote
Thank you
Magmaster12 t1_iut9cpu wrote
The worst part is that isn't even the worst owner in all sports or even franchise history.
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_The_Bear t1_ius1ty7 wrote
You clearly don't know much about Dan Snyder.
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Knightmare4469 t1_iusshfg wrote
Did the spanos prostitute out their cheerleaders while withholding their passports?
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Knightmare4469 t1_ivc649u wrote
They've won the same number of superbowls and I'd argue the chargers have been MUCH more successful and relevant since 1999, when Snyder took over. Even IF you ignore the off the field stuff, which is hilariously stupid to do so, spanos has fielded a better product than Snyder.
YorockPaperScissors t1_ius2zwg wrote
Spanos sucks, but it's not even remotely close.
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YorockPaperScissors t1_ius81vd wrote
They play home games in a nearby Maryland suburb
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YorockPaperScissors t1_ius8gmc wrote
Snyder has loads of qualifications for both categories. He runs his team like a barely functional kleptocratic dictatorship. You may have noticed that they haven't been terribly successful on the field since he purchased the team in 1999.
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YorockPaperScissors t1_iusfg7s wrote
That is not my team. In the NFL I cheer for the Falcons.
Even though Spanos moved the Chargers to LA, I stand by my assertion that Snyder is far worse.
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mikesaninjakillr t1_ius4sk6 wrote
Can whoever buys it please rename it to the sentinels
myfuntimes t1_iusd7k5 wrote
Named after the soldiers that stand guard at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier? I like it! I have been trying to think of a name that sounds decent and applies to the area.
emelbee923 t1_iusiukt wrote
I always wanted them to be the Sentinels because of The Replacements, which is loosely based on Washington's strike-shortened championship season. Get Gene Hackman and Keanu Reeves voiceovers on video packages on game day.
gr8kamon t1_iuu8rs7 wrote
It's honestly insane it didn't happen. They could have Keanu run out in full pads and uniform with the team at the first home game and people would lose their mind
DaveInDigital t1_iuv1of1 wrote
not even a Washington fan and i'd lose my mind
hnglmkrnglbrry t1_iutx7en wrote
"Chicks dig scars."
thebarkingdog t1_iuupu3d wrote
Pain heals, chicks dig scars, glory lasts forever.
Meffrey_Dewlocks t1_iuvo0ki wrote
GET THAT BALL!!!!!
Raeandray t1_iuu2qzi wrote
This seems tacky to me at best. Football is a fun sport for entertainment purposes. I don’t know that we should compare them to guardians of the soldiers who were lost but never found in war.
emodro t1_iuu6k78 wrote
It’s a replacements reference…. You should watch it, it’s great.
myfuntimes t1_iuua26k wrote
Fair point. I just like when teams have names based on their location.
JoeSicko t1_iuucvpg wrote
Sounds like something Snyder would do. Cater to vets to distract from his own BS.
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Purple1829 t1_iusx6bx wrote
I thought Football Team was such an awesome name. I was legit bummed when they didn’t keep it.
jackalope32 t1_iutb7ey wrote
It was definitely better than the Commanders.
Not_the_brightest t1_iutb8qq wrote
Yeah, I really liked it. Made then stand out from all the others, and not just because they suck.
115MRD t1_iutkduy wrote
It honestly was cool.
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Rolemodel247 t1_iusnloa wrote
Named after the law enforcement forces sent to round up mutants? I think not.
spencehammer t1_iutd19m wrote
Only slightly better than being named for men of Gilead who own Handmaids.
bdclark t1_iusvp7p wrote
You know they probably really wanted to name them the Washington Generals till they realized that's the name of the team the Harlem Globetrotters always play.
DaveInDigital t1_iuv1rb9 wrote
haha how fitting that would be tho
tFlydr t1_iuty8f7 wrote
Swapping redskins to pigskins was the easiest layup on earth.
Vergenbuurg t1_iutimpw wrote
starts dancing to 'I Will Survive'
Mesofeelyoma t1_iutxheg wrote
I always thought 'Hogs' would've been appropriate. Almost anything is better than Commanders.
ThreeDollarBanjo t1_iuvhigq wrote
Washington Monuments was always my vote
88leo t1_iuudiny wrote
Absolutely, best name I have heard. Better trademark it.
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DCdeer t1_iuu9h1f wrote
Um fuck no what a shit name that holds no meaning with the fan base
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Hwted t1_iusyt03 wrote
Washington Monuments…Swamps
phred_666 t1_iusjibj wrote
Red Wolves or Red Hogs are a LOT better names than the Sentinels. Almost as bad a name as Commanders.
somdude04 t1_iusw6au wrote
Red Wolves had trademark issues. With the history of the name, Red Hogs can be seen as comparing Native Americans to hogs.
phred_666 t1_iusx05l wrote
Can’t imagine the mental gymnastics involved with associating Hogs with Native Americans. The offensive line of Washington during their glory days in the 80’s and 90’s was “The Hogs”. That’s why you see some fans wearing hog noses. It’s a logical name choice based on the team’s past.
JoeSicko t1_iuud1gc wrote
That's why we should have been the DC groundhogs.
Dynas_ t1_iusl586 wrote
Just rename it back to the Redskins. It was never racist to begin with. That was a all a PR move.
mikesaninjakillr t1_iusmcmr wrote
It is, was, and will always be racist.
Dynas_ t1_iusr6k4 wrote
It's more racist to be offended on behalf of the people it's about who don't think it's racist at all.
mikesaninjakillr t1_iustjtp wrote
Actually the number when surveyed in 2019 was 49%.
https://news.berkeley.edu/2020/02/04/native-mascots-survey/
Also maybe we shouldn't have a football team based in our capital city share a name with a racial slur for people our nation committed genocide against. Just kind of a bad look all around.
mechapoitier t1_iusmpfv wrote
Anything but Commanders, which is so seemingly intentionally poorly thought out that it seems like a troll against the fans. So every player is in command? Like they all fly in from their global deployments on Sundays?
Hell just go back to Football Team while we sort it out.
115MRD t1_iutkqnn wrote
They risked losing the trademark rights because its illegal to trademark racial slurs. No way they'd risk continued court challenges especially when their owner is now under federal investigation.
Dynas_ t1_iuw0bfe wrote
In your own article it says:
>petitioners withdrew for further litigation now that the legal issue has become moot due to a decision in another case which found the relevant portion of the trademark law to be an unconstitutional infringement on freedom of speech.
Ry90Ry t1_iutjlgw wrote
Jeff bezos is wet rn
abotching t1_iuu7yh4 wrote
Just a drop in the bucket for him
PlayboiGarri t1_iuvinft wrote
Dude already has a house in Kalorama, he might as well just buy the Commies and somehow move them into DC proper
Additional-Ad7305 t1_iuvs3cj wrote
Ha! The Commies. Most underrated comment on a Reddit comment thread today. Have an updoot.
Ry90Ry t1_iuvwtdg wrote
U must not be around geriatric Fox News viewers…
Ry90Ry t1_iuvww9n wrote
I mean he’s building his biz compound near the airport and he owns the news paper already
MC_ScattCatt t1_iurt9cr wrote
Now if we could only do the same for Man Utd. This dude has somehow made other NFL owners look good.
82ndGameHead t1_iuruv3k wrote
Keep the pressure on them. Not one gridiron football fan thought Snyder would ever change the team's name, much less sell. But here we are...
sbrooks84 t1_iuto341 wrote
Fan solidarity is the only way to get rid of these owners who only see fans as things to extract dollars from
Seahawk715 t1_iuskg5w wrote
The glazers are from my area so it’s been fascinating to see the revolt 😬
MC_ScattCatt t1_iusw1eh wrote
Glazers Out!
RollingMoss1 t1_iuruzoq wrote
New owners for the Commanders can't come soon enough. Snyder is a disaster for the team and the NFL.
Bobgers t1_iut7mho wrote
God I hope they change that garbage name too.
UprootedLandfill t1_iuty0zl wrote
I would have rather they kept using Washington Football Team
emodro t1_iuu6xyg wrote
The problem is no one knew how to reference it. “It’s the eagles vs the football team” instead of “it’s the eagles vs Washington”.
stobors t1_iuw00jp wrote
I would rather it be the Washington Team Football or better known as WTF.
SophiaofPrussia t1_iutc1ku wrote
Yes, of all the awesome names they could’ve picked for the DC area “commanders” is just so lame. Every time I hear it I think of a football team that’s playing through the chafe because the other team stole their undies from the locker room.
camergen t1_iutwdjm wrote
What other sports parallels would they have were teams have gone through multiple name changes in a 5 year period? Maybe the Seattle Pilots? (But I want to say they moved cities and only changed once, to the Brewers)
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Bobgers t1_iutibfx wrote
I would have even taken “ The Commandments” first commandment… Thou Shall Not Win AGAINST US!
one_little_victory_ t1_iuupoyd wrote
Same. Going back to "Redskins" is probably not realistic but I would have loved Red Hawks or Red Tails. Commanders just never resonated with me.
Not_the_brightest t1_iutbb3m wrote
He destroyed the franchise.
IIIlllIIllIll t1_iuvrjef wrote
Should revert the name back to Washington Football Team too.
philodendrin t1_iut0gxw wrote
Oh Sweet Baby Jesus, I have been wanting this for a long time. He killed the team that I grew up loving and reduced it to a crappy mess of an organization and wasted talent.
Good bye, Danny Boy, don't let the door hit you in the butt on the way out.
BostonDrivingIsWorse t1_iurx423 wrote
Putin ‘bout to buy the Commanders.
_I_AM_GHOST_ t1_ius9x4r wrote
And draft Dan Snyder to the army
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*Kraft's
chris_wiz t1_iusvzvy wrote
Maybe Trump will buy it for him.
gsbadj t1_iutiy8j wrote
I have heard the comparison that Snyder is what the owners feared Trump would have been like if they they had let him own a team.
YorockPaperScissors t1_iuukkrx wrote
Yep, they are both cut from the same cloth
hairyminded t1_iuu4h7j wrote
He'd need to have actual money to do that.
JoeSicko t1_iuud9cn wrote
Only actual billionaires allowed. Maybe the Saudis?
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of_the_mountain t1_iush9ww wrote
I am worried this is just so that he can put the team in a trust or something instead of directly owning it. But hey if he actually does sell that would be great news
emelbee923 t1_iusiykl wrote
The unpopular possibility is that it is to sell a minority stake in the team, while Snyder maintains majority control.
of_the_mountain t1_iusj66z wrote
Yeah I was just thinking if he puts the team under control of an LLC or something it would be harder to remove him since it’s not a direct ownership. I’m no corporate lawyer just seems like he could add some distance between himself and the team without straight up selling it
emelbee923 t1_iusjhx2 wrote
The other possibility I saw mentioned was minority stake with a pathway to majority ownership as a means to "go out on his own terms" so to speak. He wouldn't be subject to expulsion by owners' vote, and would be forced to sell the team due to any public pressure.
I'm still skeptical that it is anything of note, such as full sale of the team. That's much too much to hope for as a Washington fan.
idobbq t1_iut87oa wrote
The NFL will still have to approve any new owner or ownership structure. I don’t see anything other than a complete sale with no ownership (directly or indirectly) tied to Snyder.
SophiaofPrussia t1_iutcub2 wrote
He 100% already owns the team through some other entity. There’s no chance he owns it directly and outright. I know Snyder is not the brightest crayon in the box but he’s definitely not that stupid.
FMX010 t1_iuti3py wrote
Ohhhh I really hope Kanye West buys them!! It would be perfect!!!
DancesWithElectrons t1_iurx72b wrote
Anyone got an in at BOA? r/sports should consider making bid (think Packers stock), we couldn't possibly do a worse job running the team.
bigboilerdawg t1_iusfdvt wrote
NFL rules require an individual to be a majority shareholder. A publicly owned team like the Packers cannot happen going forward.
Mental_Medium3988 t1_iutzuom wrote
i volunteer as tribute. donate all your money to me.
pabarb02 t1_iuu5au5 wrote
Bless you for your sacrifice
etzel1200 t1_iuupoj8 wrote
Why? Seems a bit clubbish, elitist and monopolizing.
tommypopz t1_iuvgjfo wrote
Welcome to sports business!
Ihavepurpleshoes t1_iusdgwa wrote
When I was a kid, I had a white-person doll with white hair. She came packaged with 3 washable markers: brown, auburn, and yellow to make her a brunette, a redhead, or a blond. This photo shows the exact shade for the blond hair.
Pavona t1_iutqktb wrote
oh! i thought her hair was cornpiss yellow, my bad.
ringthree t1_iuslnep wrote
As a life long Washington fan, this can not happen fast enough.
A gang of monkey's randomly picking draft picks and the roster could put together better teams over 20 years.
And there would be a substantial drop in sexual harassments incidents on the eastern seaboard.
Kirbychick999 t1_iusaujf wrote
Good, this man has clearly shown he is unable to run an organization and especially one that employs women.
Craigasm t1_iutep8g wrote
Thank god. Good riddance to him.
organikbeaver t1_iutifxn wrote
Sadly, just wait until the new owner(s). The persons capable of buying a sports team are going to be bad people. No owner will give proper salaries to cheerleaders (>$100K per year), treat front office workers (non execs) with any dignity, and provide fans with a great experience. They didn’t become billionaires by being nice, helpful, or good to a community.
santichrist t1_iuucttr wrote
Damn what a cold slap in the face of reality, I remember in my minds eye Dan Snyder looking like a frat boy version of John Oliver now he looks like Harvey Weinstein
Time flies
average_waffle t1_iuudoik wrote
It's fucked up this happening after he named the team Commanders
Purple1829 t1_iusx36x wrote
Tepper coming for that number one spot!
DragonforceTexas t1_iut1hc3 wrote
Scheme scheme plot plot!
wizkid78 t1_iutfbvd wrote
Say whhhaaaattt??
MiloGoesToTheFatFarm t1_iut020a wrote
Our collective nightmare will soon be over.
Sinicalkush t1_iuta931 wrote
Get ready for those -8.00$ monthly maintenance fees
litex2x t1_iutne6o wrote
Okay Spanos next!
woharris t1_iuuc82o wrote
Spanos is the worrrrsttt
Macalacka t1_iutvqil wrote
Cool! Now do the Cincinnati Reds
JerseyTom1958 t1_iuuc880 wrote
They destroyed a once proud and loved team. Alienated all the fans who supported them. Time to be gone Snyders!
SuddenlyThirsty t1_iuuemw1 wrote
That’s what he looks like now?
aboynamedbluetoo t1_iuvdccy wrote
I’d bet the team would have been worth more in a sale if he hadn’t renamed it and had allowed the new owners the opportunity to do so.
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Tjengel t1_iut8h1u wrote
Lou Al Synder?
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Oaksenberg t1_iutt4fo wrote
I probably woulda gotten a cobra to do it instead.
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FUCKYOUINYOURFACE t1_iuu92ny wrote
Good.
Bermuda_Shorts_ t1_iuuahyb wrote
This thread turned into Cowboys hate, er obsession. Lol
providencetoday t1_iuub9s1 wrote
That’s MR. Snyder to you!!!!
88leo t1_iuudaki wrote
Its early christmas
grand_measter t1_iuuetad wrote
the real rebrand has begun.
NoVaBurgher t1_iuuihz8 wrote
Probably cause he realized neither Virginia Maryland nor DC wanted to build him a new stadium
DOGA_Worldwide69 t1_iuukpw5 wrote
He hired Bands of America?
spyydr77 t1_iuul22s wrote
Finally!
amuricanswede t1_iuur8g7 wrote
Does this mean they can be renamed too?
ThatPaulywog t1_iuvdzxm wrote
Snyder getting booted from DC ..... Again!
tommypopz t1_iuvgfgi wrote
please
pleaseeee
Recampb t1_iuvvuxz wrote
But who is that blonde???
KingRBPII t1_iuw43cx wrote
Let’s get some black ownership in the NFL
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mackinoncougars t1_iuwxftv wrote
According to his written statement he hired BofA
Veretax t1_iuttjun wrote
Who the hell is Synder?
z3r0kewl t1_iutzxz1 wrote
I like Washington being a dumpster fire because it gives Philly one extra home game per season. And one that is much cheaper to attend.
VisualBizMark t1_iuudk8x wrote
Release the Snyder Cut!
soiledsanchez t1_iuviivm wrote
I guarantee with this sale the team will leave DC and have zero connection to the old franchise it used do be, shit they might just fold it like the browns back in ‘96
biscuitslayer77 t1_iutbcrv wrote
Who the fuck is synder
Aspiring-Old-Guy t1_iuteljb wrote
Count yourself lucky you DON'T know who he is.
guitarzan212 t1_iutkbbr wrote
Synder will do no such thing!
fjvgamer t1_iutu8zq wrote
Can anyone give me a TLDR version of why Snyder is bad? I haven't been keeping up with the NFL for a couple decades.
RicksterA2 t1_ius1rqy wrote
BOA - guaranteed to rip him off and screw the entire deal up...
YorockPaperScissors t1_iurvnjr wrote
I have to assume that votes have been counted and there are at least 24 owners willing to force Snyder out. There is no way his ego would allow him to admit defeat unless he had no choice.
Good riddance. He is definitely the worst owner in major North American professional sports. And that's saying a lot, as there is no shortage of competition for that title.
Edit to add: Everyone jumping in here with other shitty owners who they think are worse than Snyder are just wrong. Like I said, there are a ton of awful owners. But only Snyder sued his own season ticket holders. And only Snyder swindled his his own season ticket holders.