erishun t1_ivejrm7 wrote on November 7, 2022 at 11:55 AM

He was a strikeout machine and had a very long career, but also never had a season in which he was the best pitcher.

bjb406 t1_ivdyxe2 wrote on November 7, 2022 at 6:59 AM

Also never deserved it.

I don't know. I think disagreement over 1973 is ongoing:

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/867633-6-biggest-snubs-in-cy-young-voting-history
"Although Jim Palmer pitched very well, Ryan was snubbed.
Palmer’s WAR was 6.1 compared to Ryan’s 7.9. Ryan also threw considerably more innings, and had 225 more strikeouts than Palmer."

Palmer: 22–9, 158K, 113 BB, 2.40 ERA, 155 ERA Plus, 1.141 WHIP

Ryan: 21-16, 326K, 162 BB, 2.87 ERA, 123 ERA Plus, 1.227 WHIP

Edit: More Stats

It's debatable, but not the snub they play it up to be in that link.

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Baseball Historian has a good breakdown of why YT Link.

Nolan was the original juiced pitcher.

Got proof?

Here let me google that for you….

Suspicions, but no concrete proof.

Didn’t he heal up like Wolverine after that shoulder Surgury? Meds. Where there’s smoke there’s fire.