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gitty7456 t1_izmknvc wrote

“Wahl suddenly collapsed in the press box of Lusail Iconic Stadium in Doha on December 9, 2022, while covering Argentina's quarterfinal match against the Netherlands.[24][25] Local paramedics responded quickly,[26] and treated him for 30 minutes before taking him to the hospital.[27] Wahl's brother Eric said he was given CPR. Wahl was pronounced dead early on December 10 at a local hospital.[27] Eric Wahl said his brother received death threats and believed Wahl was killed, and said the family is in touch with U.S. State Department and White House officials.”

Five days before his death, Wahl wrote:

“My body finally broke down on me. Three weeks of little sleep, high stress and lots of work can do that to you. What had been a cold over the last 10 days turned into something more severe on the night of the USA-Netherlands game, and I could feel my upper chest take on a new level of pressure and discomfort. I didn’t have Covid (I test regularly here), but I went into the medical clinic at the main media center today, and they said I probably have bronchitis. They gave me a course of antibiotics and some heavy-duty cough syrup, and I’m already feeling a bit better just a few hours later. But still: No bueno.”


dmt_alpha t1_iznk73m wrote

If you continue to work under bronchitis, no wonder there is a risk of cardiac failure. I had COVID two months back. My first confirmed case since the beginning of the pandemic. Fully vaccinated, and did fairly well, so worked throughout the sickness. Until my heart started aching really bad. I was alone with two of the kids at the time. They're 2 and 4. They were watching TV on the sofa, and I was lying right next to them, crying of pain and thinking this was the last time I glanced at them, not going to live to see them grow up, etc... A man needs rest, when sick. Work-related heroics ain't worth wasting your life, and ruining the lives of everyone around.


silveycorp t1_izo7p8z wrote

Yes you need rest. You don’t have a heart attack because of bronchitis. Source: I’m a doctor.


dmt_alpha t1_izo9ip6 wrote

And apparently not a very good doctor. Any source of stress can lead to cardiac arrest, not limited to stepping on a Lego block, auto-erotic asphyxiation and falling from a horse, etc. Suffering from Bronchitis is just another cause of stress for the organism.


ImALilBug t1_izocgd8 wrote

Pretty bold to try to gauge this individuals ability as a physician based on this comment.

“Cardiac arrest” simply means the heart stopped. Literally everyone who has ever died has died because their heart stopped. This is why we write the CAUSE of cardiac arrest on the death certificate: i.e. cardiac arrest secondary to myocardial infarction, hypoxia in the setting of pneumonia, acidosis and multi organ failure in the setting of sepsis.

2 of those stressors don’t result in cardiac arrest without some significant associated pathology. Stepping on a Lego block with severe coronary artery disease could potentially be the tipping point to cause a heart attack. Falling off a horse resulting in blunt cardiac injury causing a fatal arrhythmia. Autoerotic asphyxiation would cause hypoxic respiratory failure which unless reversed would result in cardiac arrest.

Dude is right. “Bronchitis” by itself would not typically cause a myocardial infarction, not unless there was severe underlying coronary disease. What would be much more likely in this case is a viral syndrome/upper respiratory infection that progressed to myocarditis which could certainly result in cardiac arrhythmia/arrest.

Source: also a doctor


silveycorp t1_izoekkr wrote

Nothing to add here. Wasn’t going to go too deep on this seeing that it’s Reddit, but this person deserved it. Thanks

Bottom line: bronchitis does not directly cause cardiac arrest and we would never even worry about it as a potential cause unless an infection progressed to myocarditis.


Plantsandanger t1_izplp46 wrote

How quick can myocardia happen? (I know google can tell me but google also thinks everything is cancer, so I appreciate the human touch)


silveycorp t1_izqjqe6 wrote

It would have to be an very extended illness with zero improvement over a 2-4 week period. But really the likelihood even then is beyond low. We’re talking about two very different kinds of infections that typically driven by differing bacteria/viruses


silveycorp t1_izofgbf wrote

You clearly don’t know what you’re talking about and probably shouldn’t play doctor on Reddit. You’re talking about stress and cardiac arrest from a 100,000 ft view which overlooks the actual underlying cause and physiological reason for the cardiac event.

You can see the other doctors reply to understand more. Good luck, and don’t stress too much about the downvotes.


Theometer1 t1_izox78u wrote

Imagine shaving being your hobby and thinking you know more about cardiac arrest than two actual doctors that spent several years in medical school to get to where they are lmao


cbuzzaustin t1_izohmpj wrote

I had bronchitis earlier this week and i was seriously in bad shape. I was so tired and unable to do anything. Deep coughing. Then a doctor gave me a steroid and a antibiotic and i started rebounding quickly. I also kept drinking water which is important. It’s a serious thing. I also wonder if he had had a booster recently.