SnooPuppers1978 t1_j3gcm02 wrote on January 8, 2023 at 10:34 AM

Reply to comment by TmfGD in Damar Hamlin continues to progress but remains in critical condition. by PrincessBananas85

Yes, doctors are there as well, no question about it. But still as a lord looking to do miracles, hospital is exactly the place where I would go if I wanted to maximise the amount of miracles I've performed.

TmfGD t1_j3gcy9z wrote on January 8, 2023 at 10:38 AM

No, not “as well”, the only reason people get better in hospitals is because of doctors. Remove them and suddenly there are no more “acts of God” because there never were. No one deserves credit except the doctors and nurses, and especially not some made up entity in the sky.

SnooPuppers1978 t1_j3gd34b wrote on January 8, 2023 at 10:40 AM

I agree with that, but I disagree with the fact that it's weird that all the miracles would happen in the hospital if this made up entity existed. I think that would be expected since this is where the most opportunities for miracles would be.

evanc3 t1_j3gz40a wrote on January 8, 2023 at 2:38 PM

Was one of his miracles stopping Damar's heart?

Because the reason Damar survived is that everybody followed their training. Him recovering after briefly losing his heartbeat is not "miraculous", it's was actually pretty likely because of the prompt care he got.

His heart stopping on a routine play like that is much more unlikely. Maybe some divine intervention from some twisted diety who also likes to give children cancer and can make food appear out of nowhere (Exodus 16:1–36) but chooses to let people starve to death.

SnooPuppers1978 t1_j3gzvv6 wrote on January 8, 2023 at 2:44 PM

> Was one of his miracles stopping Damar's heart?

I don't believe it was a miracle. I fully believe everything has a cause and effect and randomness is just something we don't have good tools to determine. I also have no reason to believe that any sort of lord would exist. It could exist, but there's no way to tell. And if it did exist it would be impossible to determine whether any of it was a miracle.

> His heart stopping on a routine play like that is much more unlikely. Maybe some divine intervention from some twisted diety who also likes to give children cancer and can make food appear out of nowhere (Exodus 16:1–36) but chooses to let people starve to death.

Yes, if there's a lord it seems that it really doesn't care and it might seem more likely that the World is being simulated by this lord for example entertainment or research purposes. But even then if a lord is simulating everything, and can intervene with certain actions that could be considered miracles, if the game was to score as many points as possible, the lord would be able to do that in the hospital. So maybe it's a video game, where you have to score as many points doing miracles.

evanc3 t1_j3h0b2r wrote on January 8, 2023 at 2:48 PM

Lol fair point. I always make the argument that either God is omnipotent and doesn't care about us, or isn't omnipotent and we shouldn't care about god

SnooPuppers1978 t1_j3h28ij wrote on January 8, 2023 at 3:02 PM

God could be all knowing, all powerful and loving in its own terms if you imagine it being some sort of programmer who created this software for simulating us. He (or whichever gender) could be all knowing in the sense that at any given moment he can check the state of the system and all powerful that he can tweak the state or save/load, and loving in the sense that he totally loves the system he built. It keeps him entertained for years. And he's not even a psychopath, because he thinks it's all just code, and he's otherwise a kind person irl.