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417SKCFAN t1_ja8w1tp wrote

Seems like a pretty normal late winter mess to me.

https://www.ky3.com/2021/03/18/springfields-pothole-problem-and-the-citys-plan-to-fix-it/?outputType=amp

https://www.ozarksfirst.com/news/local-news/how-to-report-potholes-in-springfield/amp/

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dhrisc t1_ja9dvog wrote

Yeh the salt and plows are bad on the roads

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Why_T t1_jaahm24 wrote

Freezing water is the real culprit.

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pssssn t1_ja91zfm wrote

First step to get them fixed is to report them.

Download the gospringfieldmo app to your smartphone and submit a report at the location of each one.

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Affectionate-Car-468 OP t1_ja9ixek wrote

šŸ¤Æ Full-Time job!!! šŸ˜

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pssssn t1_ja9r8wv wrote

Yeah, I mostly report them when they are on secondary roads. I'd like to assume they patrol the major roads for issues.

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Acrobatic-Yak-1574 t1_jadmfmd wrote

You can also call the Public Works dept. I've done this twice recently and both times they filled the potholes.

I've done that every once every few years over some bad ones and typically they get filled in about a week or so. Good job PW.

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wildweasel29 t1_ja8xn3n wrote

Were saving up the funds to buy a baseball stadium guys... some sacrifices have to be made.

Just swerve around them.

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indiefab t1_ja9fcyl wrote

It does seem like a bad year. I think the sub-zero temps were really hard on roads. Spring repairs donā€™t start until the cold temps are done.

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LeeOblivious t1_ja9gx7f wrote

It is more the freezing cycle of expansion and contraction of water after it has gotten into the road. Exasperated by cheap incomplete patch jobs, and inadequate funding for maintenace.

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GSPilot t1_ja99fi7 wrote

Theyā€™re harbingers of springā€¦

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2015JeepHardRock t1_ja9ssuq wrote

Salt Life

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bradpmo t1_jaasm46 wrote

As someone who has mocked all the SWMO residents with ā€œSalt Lifeā€ stickers on their cars, this is the funniest comment Iā€™ve read on Reddit today.

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Guilty_Soup5377 t1_ja8vz7s wrote

Yes, thought the exact same thing this morning. I drive from sunshine to James river on national and it was awful today

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Nanookthesealtrapper t1_ja9l3sn wrote

The only thing that can be done is patch them with cold mix until the plants start making asphalt again...the cold mix holds for about a week if there's much temperature fluctuation

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tdawg-1551 t1_ja8yck6 wrote

I know they announced that chestnut will be resurfaced, so I guess someone knows about it. Baffles me how city/county higher-ups can drive the roads and not be upset enough to do something about it quickly. Some of them are really bad and could probably be okay short term with a quick fix.

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Anxious-Classroom-28 t1_jaauacn wrote

Itā€™s called pot hole season. The freeze thaw cycles after winter tears pavement up at a cellular level

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Moosey_78 t1_jabc4dy wrote

Water gets in cracks and freezes and expands, plows push the expanded asphalt or concrete away and you have a new pothole. Just part of living where it freezes

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ColbyRE t1_jadgdds wrote

Yes, it's been awful this season. I've lived here 20 years, and it's never been this bad. I've lost three hubcaps in as many months.

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Affectionate-Car-468 OP t1_ja8yz8h wrote

I understand the Stadium purchase. As long as the city doesn't own it long term, the city should be okay.

The Stadium is a monster tax generator. . Losing that would mean even more potholes. šŸ¤Æ

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LeeOblivious t1_ja9gix4 wrote

If it was that big of a tax generator (i.e. profitable) they would not have needed a public bail out.

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Affectionate-Car-468 OP t1_ja9jqay wrote

The Stadium was in a Trust Fund, so no dollars being spent for improvements. And the tax dollars generated were not specifically from the Stadium... Restaurants, hotels, shops that benefited from the Stadium. So not necessarily a bail out ... If the Cardinals had moved the AA club... We would have another urban outdoors person's hangout, an eyesore with no future.

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LeeOblivious t1_ja9ownz wrote

Trust funds can spend funds on improvements. And you are making a supposition that Restaurants, hotels, shops et all actually significantly benefited from said stadium^(1). This is the same tired argument that keeps getting retreaded every time public funds are used to prop up private enterprise. If the stadium had been profitable then it could easily have gotten financing. Or the Cardinals could easily have ponied up to buy it themselves if it is that important to them. Their organization is worth how many billion??? ~20 million is barely even a drop in their net revenues.

1 Whaples, Robert. "Do Economists Agree on Anything? Yes!" Economists' Voice, 2006, 3(9), pp. 1-6.

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LeeOblivious t1_ja9qb6c wrote

Oh, and making the thing into a giant shelter for the homeless would actually be a good use of public funds. We can centralize services for them, saving money while containing problems to a small area that is easily patrolled. The city as a whole would benefit. We could put in a small clinic and police office onsite as well. Provide onsite addiction treatment and counseling and mental healthcare. As well as permeant housing services and job assistance. A big part of the homeless not being able to get a job is employers' reluctance to hire anyone with no permanent address and hygiene issues. I know when I do interviews if you smell or are dirty, I do not care how good a resume you have I'm not hiring you.

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KTfl1 t1_jackg9q wrote

"Containing problems to a small area"

I have issue with your choice of words and the premise. Unhoused generally do not want to be confined or contained. In my opinion, putting people who may have some mental issues together in a small space is a recipe for disaster.

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FriendshipIntrepid91 t1_ja9qijq wrote

Based on the location of the stadium, I'd say not many businesses benefit from it. Probably just the parking garage.

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laffingriver t1_jaamjnh wrote

look into what chicago is going through with the bears and soldier field.

something similar can likely happen here.

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Cold417 t1_jaakl8r wrote

Let's just dump our collective funds into endless roadwork. Maybe regulate the auto industry so we don't have excessive wear and tear so Suzy Q can commute to work all by herself.

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Javaridge t1_ja90pe2 wrote

The city bought body cameras for the police department using the "pothole fund". But as others have pointed out, it's pretty normal for there to be an increase in potholes this time of year.

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Affectionate-Car-468 OP t1_ja9k0s4 wrote

Yes an increase is understandable at this point in the season, but this just seems more excessive. I've lived here since 1997 and it just literally feels different driving to and from work.

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Javaridge t1_ja9ov2e wrote

I would say that whatever particular route you take might have more potholes. Have you reported any of them?

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AggravatingReach8891 t1_jabgibp wrote

That's interesting because in an article about a homeless camp clean up the police said they don't have body cameras. Which is totally bs. I've seen them

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