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Punnchy t1_jcijyto wrote

Religion became a tool, for the weak to control the strong. With all these new morals and ethics, survival of the fittest was gone. No longer could the biggest man simply take whatever he needed 'Cause damnation was the price if certain rules were not heeded. -Scroobious Pip

Honestly, you'll have to work on deconstructing their values that keep them tied to that church and getting them to the point of wanting to spend their money supporting the things it's spent on elsewhere. Construct a bridge to a church that does. Bring up the fact that a church that size has no warming center, or overnight shelter. How many families does the ministry have in a stop from being homeless support program, things like that. Same thing when you look at places like salvation army, and how they treat trans folks. If the scripture they teach doesn't include loving everyone, it's blasphemous. Ya know what I'm saying?