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turned_out_normal t1_iua2xjb wrote

First, your have to take a Missouri department of conservation approved hunter's safety course. I'm sure you can find those on the MDC website. You might not be able to hunt legally this year. Any place that sells hunting permits abs tags should have hunting regulation booklets. Are you planning to hunt archery season or rifle season? Rifle season is i think a week and a half long, archery season is four months long i think. As mentioned by another poster, there are a lot of pubic hunting areas around, but they might have different species rules, so be sure to check it the booklet and the poster boards at the various MDC parking lots. Be aware that there are a lot of overly ambitious hunters in the woods on opening morning. That makes me a nervous enough to avoid rifle hunting opening morning (to be fair I don't know anytime that's been shot in a hunting accident, and my closest call was when I was doing to good of a job calling in a turkey). There's a lot of MDC land or by pleasant hope, around Stockton Lake, and there's a few thousand acres south west of Miller. Like someone else said, you really need to scout before season. Generally deer are more active right around sunrise and sunset, but during the rut they're out there running running around like oblivious horned up teenagers.

For me, working a deer up will take most of a day. One favor archery hunting and I favor waiting until the weather is cooler so I don't have to be in as big a hurry. Typical you'll field dress the deer where you kill it or nearby. That is disembowel it. For food safety reasons take care when cutting out the anus. Does are easier to butcher in this area because of the shape of their pelvis. You'll want a gambrel and hoist to hang the deer. Of course sharp knives will make the job easier and are safer. Skinning some deer is easier than others. I've seen videos where people successfully pull the hide off by hand (and with a gold ball and a four wheeler), but I usually pull and cut at the same time. If you want to tan the hide (which I've never done) i think you want try to get as little fat and muscle of with the hide as you can. Also, it's generally not recommended that you hose the carcass of at any point as that can facilitate bacterial growth. I typical find it fairly easy to quarter the joints out just by following the contours if the muscles with the knife, feeling for the tendons and ligaments. The front legs aren't really in a socket, so they might be easier. Depending on the damage done by the kill, i usually carve the meat off the neck rather than take the neck of like the legs. I should back up a little. When the hide is pulled before the knees i typically just cut the shins of with some limb loppers (yep, with my tree pruners). To remove the skull, i follow it's base through the meat with the knife, cutting some tendons, and then I'm usually able to twist it off the rest of the way. I usually turn almost all of the legs and neck into ground meat and jerky. Sometimes I'll cut roast or steak out of the back legs. I'm not a trained butcher, so I just cut it up how i feel like. I do tend to cut my deer lean and then grind some of it up with beef fat. Some of it I leave lean. I weigh it to get an 80% 20% ratio, but that my preference. I do that mainly for burgers. Everything else (meat loaf, chill, hamburger helper) I'll general just use lean. Sometimes I'll grind in some bacon ends for fun, and I use of fat if I'm making sausage. I've been able to get super cheap scrap fat from a butcher i know in the past. People often call the back strap a tender loin, but that is imprecise. The tender loin is in side the rib cage sort of behind the kidney area. If gutted properly, they should be pretty obvious. They're usually not very big compared to a pork or beef tenderloin you'll find at the grocery store. The back strap (probably like a human trapezius?) it's generally the hunter's favorite part of the deer. Your fish fillet skills might come in handy here. They're on either side of the spinal ridge running from the neck to nearly the pelvis. You'll run your knife down each side of the spine, then along the back of the ribs. I usually cut these down to one and two person serving sizes with maybe one or two family sizes depending on the size of the deer. I should have prefaced all of this with, I'm far from an expert, but this is what works for me. YouTube is our friend. I typically have discarded most of the ribs, but I might get a bone saw this year and try some smoked or bbq'd deer ribs this year. Also, I've seen a guy butcher a deer without gutting it. He had it hung, skinned it, cut off the quarters and back straps, and just made a longish incision in the lower abdomen and just sort of pushed the guts to the side and pulled the tender loins out. I'm more loquacious than i am experienced, but if you have any questions feel free to DM me.

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StrongPlan3 OP t1_iua4dni wrote

Wow, thank you so much for the detailed walkthrough. My last resort was YouTube however I was hoping maybe I could tag along with someone to see the process first hand. Hopeful, I know but I'd figure I'd try. I am working on doing the hunters safety course as well, I just have a licensing exam coming up for the hospital and that takes priority.

My plan is to get a rifle this year, think 6.7CM, and familiarize myself with it. Hopefully be prepared for next year. I'm just worried about field dressing the deer my first time as I don't want to foul the meat.

Might have to just rely on YouTube and wing it 🤷‍♂️

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turned_out_normal t1_iua6khx wrote

I forgot to say that, in my opinion, deer hunting is mostly sitting still and quiet, and luck. Shooting skill is important, and being where the deer are is lucky. A tree stand or a blind will help immensely.

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Content_Idea t1_iucd948 wrote

I wouldn’t say shooting a gun requires much skill though 😅😂 more like knowing how it works and pulling a trigger.

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XzallionTheRed t1_iucqxb2 wrote

*laughs at why the military and every armed force spends so much time training this supposed easy skill, when this guy knows the one trick that the rest don't. *

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Content_Idea t1_iudglp1 wrote

The military and hunting are two different things but okay. Sorry I hurt your feelings.

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XzallionTheRed t1_iue903j wrote

Look, of you are a conservationist and believe in limiting the animals suffering, you put effort I to making a good shot, which requires skill. You aren't upsetting me, it's just ridiculous to assume no skill is involved. Aiming for a fist sized target past 100byards through light brush and foliage takes skill. Lots assume that bows are more skillful but it's just different skills.

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Content_Idea t1_iuhwjoh wrote

Killing a deer at 25 yards without a scope takes more skill than killing a deer at a 100 yards with a rifle. Bow hunters also use groupings. Sure they both take skill, but bow hunting requires more practice and patience.

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turned_out_normal t1_iucxvax wrote

Speaking broadly, i think most people are not as good of a shot as they think they are, and I've been around a lot of shooters over the past thirty years. Any decent deer rifle should be able to consistently group tighter than a half dollar at a hundred meters. Most people that don't shoot a lot would probably struggle to group tighter than a grape fruit at a hundred meters supported. And unsupported at a hundred meters? Forget about it. This is all opinion, I've done no research and would hope to be wrong. But you'll hear way more gun shots opening morning of rifle season than you'll see hunters with dead deer.

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Content_Idea t1_iudgd99 wrote

I bow hunt and rifle hunters just shock me with how terrible they are lol

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scoop_booty t1_iudd566 wrote

Field dressing is easy. You're basically going to fit the deer from groin to sternum. I make sure the deer's belly is facing downhill if there is any grade at all, as gravity will fight you otherwise once you try to pull the guts out. Next, I start at the lowest point of the groin and cut years the sternum. Super important to make sure your knife gets just under the skin, and stays that way all the way through the cut. You don't want to cut organs, especially the bladder. Otherwise you'll get urine on the meat.

Once you've got it open just reach inside and pull all the guts out. Then, cut the intestine and bladder near the anus, and reach up into the cavity of the chest and pull out the lungs and heart. You'll have to reach way up in there to cut the trachea (throat). So, just remember, the organ system is a tube coming in and two tubes coming out, with a bunch of stuff in-between. You cut the tubes last. Then you leave all that stuff for the critters. Birds and coyotes will consume it by morning.

Field dressing will take about 40# of weight away, making it easier to get to the vehicle. And leaves all the guts in the forest for animals.

I usually carry a pair of disposable gloves. Makes it easier to clean up afterwards. Make sure you take those back out of the woods...leave no trace.

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