Submitted by chimesplayer t3_yee7qe in springfieldMO
sirwillow77 t1_itxq3lt wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in The Silver Dollar City train derailed today by chimesplayer
The mechanic was killed because of their own negligent actions (they didn't lock out when they were in a safety secured area like they were supposed to). That has nothing to do with the train.
If you know anything about the train then you have a clue about how meticulous those engineers and workers are with it
Maybe find out what happened first before making broad judgements?
WheresYourTegridy t1_itxw87n wrote
Here’s what I do know: those engineers get paid minimum wage to service those engines.
sirwillow77 t1_ity4t3c wrote
Guess you don't know much then. No, they don't. Know them all personally and they get paid more than that. Their wages aren't any of your business, but they get paid decent enough.
And they love their work and those engines.
garcia_later t1_itz1x1b wrote
People’s wages are everyone’s business. That secrecy favors the corporate owners. Stand up for workers.
Mysteroo t1_itzjzzd wrote
Revealing private info about a person's wages is not "standing up for workers." Giving them the freedom to decide whether or not to disclose that information is
The dude you're responding to has worked with those engineers for years. He'd know the facts of the matter a lot better than you might
garcia_later t1_iu0qxb1 wrote
Wages aren’t private information. Knowledge is power. Owners and bosses have conditioned us to think our low wage is a result of our low value.
Mysteroo t1_iu1qkcn wrote
Stop abusing the injustice of underpaid workers to justify your own grubby need to know everyone's personal info. Maybe you don't care about privacy but some of us still do.
I'll happily tell anyone what I make and there's no shame in that - but NO ONE has the right to know that information without my consent.
Knowledge IS power. And that's exactly why corporations are trading and selling personal data more than any other commodity. Maybe don't enable them
garcia_later t1_iu26a3j wrote
Wow Have fun being mad
I don’t have any need or desire to know what everyone makes. What I’m saying is the culture of secrecy around pay in general is a problem and keeps wages artificially low because coworkers don’t talk about it. And that’s what owners want. Have a great life.
Mysteroo t1_iu3wxbs wrote
Admittedly I was a tad upset when I typed that- but I feel like that's understandable given the context
You're 100% right about the fact that we shouldn't act like our wages are private in the same way that our underwear size is. And culture does indeed empower corporations in that way. No disagreement there
Let's just not pretend like that makes it OUR business to know what OTHER people make. It's better to empower people to share that info themselves than to try and make that choice for them.
sirwillow77 t1_iu0bea9 wrote
I'll accept that when you post your wages and income taxes on your social media and link it here for everyone to see...
I have a feeling that none of the people liking your comment are putting their income levels out there for everyone either.
garcia_later t1_iu0r0ka wrote
I make $15.85 an hour.
WheresYourTegridy t1_itygge7 wrote
I guess the engineer I talked to servicing an engine a few years back outside the depot was lying to me then.
WheresYourTegridy t1_ityhseo wrote
Wrong. They are my business if I want to know, not illegal pal.
Mysteroo t1_itzkj3n wrote
There's a difference between something being illegal and something being an invasion of privacy.
It's not illegal, but it isn't your business. If they want to share how much they make, that's their choice
sirwillow77 t1_ity7lmf wrote
And just to clarify: the engineers are all considered mechanics and are paid as such, which is a very different, and higher, pay scale than the ones operating rides and registers in the park.
And most of those also get paid better than minimum wage, especially in the last couple of years with the rise in wages everywhere.
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