DiabetikCrysis t1_iu2rqj9 wrote on October 28, 2022 at 3:03 AM

Reply to comment by ResultedTag72 in Back in Town by banana_and_beans

Just wanna drop this off here - the northern portion of downtown is becoming a hotspot for, and I'd never thought I'd say this about SGF MO but, gang activity. I've got a couple of connections in the SPD and have been told on a personal level to stay away from downtown in general, after 10PM.

Yes, it's just young kids, mainly high-school age but they're strapped and they're shooting. Blindly around corners, carrying out drive-by's,etc. It's fucking crazy, sucks we've gotten to this point. I still enjoy downtown but have taken the advice and clear out as it gets later.

ResultedTag72 t1_iu2s2sz wrote on October 28, 2022 at 3:05 AM

Idk about that I literally live on the square and walk around almost every night. I enjoy night time and have never heard a gunshot like ever.

DiabetikCrysis t1_iu2sl3w wrote on October 28, 2022 at 3:10 AM

I know, I'm just an internet person lol, but I'm unfortunately not making this up. There are active investigations into gangs and their dealings, including shootings downtown. Family member is a detective in SPD. Shit is real.

ResultedTag72 t1_iu2sokk wrote on October 28, 2022 at 3:10 AM

I'm not saying you're an internet person so it's a lie. I just live right here I would definitely hear gunshots or sirens. Far more than I do now

DiabetikCrysis t1_iu2u3i5 wrote on October 28, 2022 at 3:23 AM

Not trying to shove this down your throat, just showing you I'm not pulling this out of my ass lol: https://www.news-leader.com/story/news/local/ozarks/2006/02/19/do-we-have-a-gang-problem-police-admit-springfield-is/77200926/

That's from 3 years ago and the big ol' "Yet" disclaimer they have in there is toast. They're out there blastin' now. I ain't sayin' not to go out and have a good time. But keep your head on a swivel. :)

edit: LOL whoops! Typin' too fast! I meant to say 13 years but even that's wrong cuz I ain't too good at math! 16, 16 years ago haha. That's my point though, we had a problem that long ago, it's worse now.

Cloud_Disconnected t1_iu2yhyf wrote on October 28, 2022 at 4:02 AM

I'm not disputing you because I don't know anything about the current situation. But I will say SPD has a history of chicken-littling about gang activity. There was a panic back in the nineties that was akin to the Satanic Panic about gangs. I remember that hats were banned in schools, as well as a lot of logos on shirts for being "gang-related," and it was 99% BS. It tends to crop up now and again in the paper and on the news.

Not saying you're wrong, just that I take it with a big grain of salt.

DiabetikCrysis t1_iu31ltk wrote on October 28, 2022 at 4:33 AM

Nothing wrong with questioning things! I would have never thought it was a problem myself if I hadn't been presented with this information by the detective. Not only that, I have a child the same age that went to school with some of the alleged perpetrators. Confirmed they were bad news, one of these "gang leaders" was expelled for bringing a firearm to school. I honestly didn't want to believe it either, but I got first hand accounts of the investigations and crime scenes. It's nuts. Trust me, I asked why in the world we don't hear about this on the news, whey there aren't more articles about it, if they knew their names why the hell they weren't just going and arresting them, etc, etc. Mostly it seems it's because... they just can't catch the little bastards with enough evidence to prosecute.

ShartsvilleDestroyer t1_iu4yd60 wrote on October 28, 2022 at 4:10 PM

>they're strapped and they're shooting. Blindly around corners, carrying out drive-by's,etc.

I have a hard time believing this. It's weird that I have not seen a single news article about this type of stuff.

DiabetikCrysis t1_iu6bct9 wrote on October 28, 2022 at 9:45 PM

Ok. Kinda done defending this. Colin Loderhose was shot and killed by 20yr old Zachary Cano on July 5th 2022 at Anchor Tactical Supplies. Zachary had known gang affiliations in Springfield. He went to Parkview High School. You will not find this in any of the articles because overall, the SPD does not want to admit this city has a gang problem. Yet there are multiple detectives assigned to investigations pertaining to that same issue. Spoke with one of those detectives today, they've recently arrested a few of these individuals and removed 7 guns from their possession. Unfortunately, he also told me there's another gang starting up but...Y'all believe whatever the fuck you want. I can understand where you'd be skeptical of me but it's getting tiring lol. Best of luck out there.