Submitted by Frosty-Succotash8126 t3_yn3nt1 in springfieldMO
Raider3447 t1_iv7rlaw wrote
Reply to comment by banjomin in Ballot by Frosty-Succotash8126
I read the link you provided. I’ve lived in Springfield my entire life (over 40 years) and Galloway has been a piece of shit for most of it. It’s run down. There’s a few old flea markets, abandoned concrete factories and a quarry. It hasn’t been preserved at all. I also watched the video from the vote yes on 1 group. They are saying the development will put money towards drainage, road improvements and still keep over 100 mature trees. I don’t understand what we’re trying to save in Galloway.
banjomin t1_iv82yxk wrote
>They are saying the development will put money towards drainage, road improvements
My understanding is that this means a pipe diverting storm drainage into the park, which is bad.
>keep over 100 mature trees.
My understanding is this means they’re getting rid of about 300, so they’re getting rid of 3/4 of trees in that area, which will not help with storm drainage, which is bad.
>I don’t understand what we’re trying to save in Galloway.
My understanding is that they’re trying to prevent the above things. We can turn the park into a dark swamp or cope with the wealthy developer not being able to buy another boat for his kid this year.
xPeachesV t1_iv8iom2 wrote
This is just me and I know I’m a rando but the way people talk about this developer shows that they are talking out of their ass.
This developer grew up in SGF, played QB at Hillcrest and has never had a bad thing to say about this town in all the years I’ve known him. I have never gotten the sense that he is some entitled asshole but the way people talk about him, it’s like they know who he is and can therefore judge his real intentions.
It’s fine for people to be against prop 1 for all the reasons laid out but some of this shit comes out of thin air
Raider3447 t1_iv83wwd wrote
I don’t want the park turned into drainage either. If the project is done properly, then I think it will be a good thing. The flip side to this, is another developer comes in with a plan that people like even less and it doesn’t get stopped.
I’m a simple man. I like cool restaurants, bars and biking trails near my home. If this helps that cause, then I’m all for it.
bthornsy t1_iv8t5eg wrote
That’s not what it’s going to be though. Can you imagine what ripping out 287 mature trees and plopping an Ingram mill style five story apt complex against a two lane road will do? They have no real plans for infrastructure improvements beyond a speed bump lol.
As for flooding, the current vegetation is literally the only thing holding back flooding running down the hill as well. It gets bad enough during the rainiest times.
The most important thing to note is, the neighborhood (which I am not a part of) is actually in favor of responsible development of the area in its current zone, light commercial. If they tucked a cool, modern, single story light commercial development into the trees and added greenway access, that’d be sweet! Galloway neighborhood has expressed interest in something like this. They’ve even expressed interest into rezoning for light single family residential and even light mixed use!
The real issue is city officials/real estate companies who have vested interest in $1200/mo+ apartments overlooking the park. They tried shoving this rezoning through, hoping they could dupe Springfield residents into letting private interests capitalize on one of springfields few truly green spaces in town. Corrupt AF.
Oh, and the taxes will be deferred for TEN YEARS for the developers. How will that help anybody but the investors and developers? Hate to rant, but this issue gives springfieldians a real chance at deciding what happens with our nice spaces, I hope we don’t squander it.
Please vote NO on #1.
pile_of_holes t1_iva6zeo wrote
Well said. Your middle paragraph is spot on. I do live in Galloway, and we recognize the parcel will be developed. We feel that it can be effectively developed with the current zoning. The proposed development is too high density and not at all in character with its context. In a place like Galloway, character and context are so important to preservation of the aspects that make Galloway attractive. We want to preserve that character so that Springfield at large can enjoy it into the future, rather than have something built which will be detrimental to that, while really only benefiting the developer, and which will lose the shiny attractive newness in about 10 years, right as those tax abatements would be ending.
Raider3447 t1_iv914az wrote
Thanks for your take on it. I agree that we don’t need more apartments. I’d like to think Galloway could be something similar to Rogers/Bentonville areas with lots of things to do outdoors. Throw in some cool places to eat and grab a drink and that would be great. However, I think the tax deferment is justified if the development can bring in business (tax) dollars.
I get frustrated seeing progress derailed by bullshit and I hope this doesn’t fall in line with the square redevelopment from 15 years ago. There were some great ideas for the square but once someone got a historical designation slapped on the fountain, it effectively killed the project.
I did read this article a few minutes ago:
It does change how I feel about it. I’m anti apartments and pro bars/restaurants.
Low_Tourist t1_iv80bzb wrote
Sounds like you haven't been down to the area in decades.
Raider3447 t1_iv816oi wrote
I live down the street from Galloway. I go to 4x4, Galloway Grill and Great Escape on a regular basis. The new shopping/restaurant area is nice.
Heavy_Ad_1479 t1_iv84kw2 wrote
Lol you don't get out much
Raider3447 t1_iv87iei wrote
It’s basically my back yard. Only one stretch has been developed.
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